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Old 05-03-2007, 11:11 AM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

I'd have to call this, too.
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

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If you open raise 4xBB and someone reraises all-in like this... it might be spew by them.

But an open huge overbet with some deep stacked is Aces enough for me to fold Kings.

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Old 05-03-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

I might have to alter my play with AA after reading this thread.

With this many people willing to call a huge UTG overbet with KK... I will be making these donk raises with AA a little more often. Definitely an EV+ move IMO.
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

Right, because KK is usually not going to put much money in the pot.
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

No it isn't. People don't automatically get dealt KK when you get AA, and when they do you usually stack them anyways. Open shoving AA is very very bad unless your playing .05/.10 or lower then it might be ok.
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

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I might have to alter my play with AA after reading this thread.

With this many people willing to call a huge UTG overbet with KK... I will be making these donk raises with AA a little more often. Definitely an EV+ move IMO.

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joke post???
i guess this works if EVERYTIME you have AA you open push your stack.

if you pick your spots, it will never work???
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

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I might have to alter my play with AA after reading this thread.

With this many people willing to call a huge UTG overbet with KK... I will be making these donk raises with AA a little more often. Definitely an EV+ move IMO.

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you always win big pots(or lose big when it gets there) when you have AA and someone else has KK

but you lose a fuckton of value vs other hands
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:11 PM
CanSpoilU CanSpoilU is offline
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

I know it was more of a joke post than anything else.... but I am wondering how people here can say "open pushing with AA is a horrible play".

Yet people here are willing to call these donk pushes with KK.


I guess I am just surprised. Also... It is probably also possible that if someone donks the pot... then you call... wouldn't someone else with a nice drawing hand call for some multiway pot odds?
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

Yes it is a horrible play, even at 5NL imo.
And certainly at 50NL.
I don't see this move a lot but IF someone calls it's usually a shortstack.

I think I just fold because most of the times this is AA.
This could be a player that moved up from the 10NL tables where pushing AA happens more.
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: 50NL ... 250BB bigstack open pushes UTG+1? Eh??

I fold and then type into the chat box "I CAN DODGE BULLETS, BABY!" and then piss myself out of anger when he shows AQs.
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