limping in with 84 suited

stingray2222 · #1 05-01-2007, 11:25 PM

over all is liming with 84 suited in a table full tight passive/loose passive players incorrect?

Gigglegirl · #2 05-01-2007, 11:48 PM

Part of the reason we play suited connectors is their combo value, flushes/straights, 2 pairs, trips. If you play a 3 gap suited connector you are severely cutting down on straight draws.
You could make a profit playing that hand but your postflop skills would need to be far superior to your opponents.
So in a word........DUMP.

El_Hombre_Grande · #3 05-02-2007, 02:08 AM

yes. very much so.

Matt G · #4 05-02-2007, 02:33 AM

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You could make a profit playing that hand but your postflop skills would need to be far superior to your opponents.
So in a word........DUMP.

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dave88 · #5 05-02-2007, 06:19 PM

possibly 86s but 84s ??? Dumparoni. The only way I could see that being playable out of the blinds would be on the button with all players limping, even then it smells like cheese.

CurryLover · #6 05-02-2007, 06:30 PM

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over all is liming with 84 suited in a table full tight passive/loose passive players incorrect?

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Whilst any hand is playable in the right spot, if you were a good enough player to be playing 84s for a profit then you wouldn't be asking the question...

stingray2222 · #7 05-02-2007, 10:35 PM

im still learning alot.

jgca · #8 05-02-2007, 10:58 PM

Something else to think about:

Another thing you're doing when you play lower suited connectors is mixing it up. When you have hands like KQo or KTs in a good proportion to hands like 76s, opponents will have trouble pegging how your hand relates to the flop, and they'll often get it wrong.

So, how do you get a "good proportion"? There are a fairly small number of high card hands that are good to limp along with. Now think about how many low suited un- or weakly-connected hands like 84s there are. If your strategy is to play 84s, then presumably you'll also play 95s-96s-85s-74s-97s-86s-75s-64s-53s-98s-87s-76s-65s-54s-43s. Yikes! Your opponents can now safely put you off high cards. This is now a martini that's all vermouth.

So, the way to get the proportion right is to limp with a few low card hands, and naturally you would tend to choose the best few.