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Old 05-01-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: ATs on the flop

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I like calling the first raise and leading a non heart turn to deny the free card that I think he's wanting.

[/ QUOTE ]I like this a lot more than that 3-bet/fold spew.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: ATs on the flop

I would just c/c the whole way. I think you would have been three-bet pf more often than not with a better hand.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:00 PM
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wow [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] i don't like this at all

just call down from the raise if you're that worried

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Yep, after the flop raise all I'm doing is c/c from that point. Way too clever here.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:43 PM
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You need to be more aggressive than that paxo.

A lot of the time I'll 3bet flop and lead the turn, you need to bet safe turns though or you're just going to get destroyed by free cards all day.
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: ATs on the flop

This would be the perfect oppertunity to really analyze the the player at the CO. Generally only 3 players or so at the table will raise a draw especially to a cap. If you have seen the player raise a draw at a point before then you may have to call and see if they check behind.

Remember most players who would cap there on a draw would be doing so to get the free card... and a turn bet would be rare in that situation by the CO.

The A10 is not particularly strong to even 1 or 2 bets so I think your fold is safe, even if the CO is on the draw, other players are not far behind and your equity is low. Good fold.
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:43 PM
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without any reads, i probably go into c/c mode here after the first raise, then make a note what he shows.

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Without a read you should definitely be leading safe turn cards.

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I like calling the first raise and leading a non heart turn to deny the free card that I think he's wanting. I think AQ is more likely to 3 bet pf than cold call so I give him less credit for that.

[/ QUOTE ]That is exactly what I would do.
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