bellagio shakeup

[John Kilduff]

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I've always felt that a tip was warranted when good service is received - not in order to get good service.

I tip the brush well at places I play at because I'm treated well by them. It's one of the reasons I play regularly at the same casinos - I'm treated well when I do go there. It goes hand in hand. I have a real issue with people thinking that it's necessary to tip in order to receive good service. That's bass-ackwards.

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Ah but the fatal flaw there is that's not how Vegas works. You can have your view of the world, and for what it's worth, I agree with your view. HOWEVER, your view is not how vegas works. You pay first, get good service later. Only exception is waiters. Everyone else you're greasing first.

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I don't tip poker dealers before receiving good service from them, and I most assuredly do not tip cab drivers before being conveyed to my destination. Do you?

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I don't tip poker dealers before receiving good service from them, and I most assuredly do not tip cab drivers before being conveyed to my destination. Do you?

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THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT TIPPING. All future posts about tipping in this thread will be deleted, as a preventative measure to avoid the thread being locked after falling into a flame war that tipping threads when someone injects an opinion as fact almost always does.

[rafiki]

Anyone ever go cow tipping ?

*banned*

[kailua]

Perhaps a bit draconian when it appears TT first instilled tipping into the thread?


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Interesting side plot... Boba sits me at my table, and I (as always) give him a red bird. He looks down at my hand and actually hesitates. He looks at me oddly as if to say why are you giving this to me, and then accepts the tip. Thats standard operating procedure for me, I always tip him regardless of the wait for a table (and he barely ever remembers me because i don't play at the B often enough). Too bad, Bobba had the most personality of the floor crew, I hope they dont bring over the Mirage staff!

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[Admo]

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Ah but the fatal flaw there is that's not how Bellagio works.

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Perhaps a bit draconian when it appears TT first instilled tipping into the thread?


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Interesting side plot... Boba sits me at my table, and I (as always) give him a red bird. He looks down at my hand and actually hesitates. He looks at me oddly as if to say why are you giving this to me, and then accepts the tip. Thats standard operating procedure for me, I always tip him regardless of the wait for a table (and he barely ever remembers me because i don't play at the B often enough). Too bad, Bobba had the most personality of the floor crew, I hope they dont bring over the Mirage staff!

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A story about the floor who was fired is ok when a tip is included in the situation but the story was not about the pros/cons of tipping, there is a huge difference between that and expressing your opinions about tipping.

I think the old saying goes opinions are like axx holes. Everyone has them, and they all stink. Keep your tipping opinions to yourself, like it or not its a component of the consumer culture.

Now kindly stop derailing the thread, thank you.

[DQPaulie]

http://www.lasvegasvegas.com/2007/04...at_bellagi.php

The dealer info about Doug D. leaving to open the Mohegan Sun seems to be false, according to the above link.

Paulie

[rgold79]

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Ah but the fatal flaw there is that's not how Vegas works. You can have your view of the world, and for what it's worth, I agree with your view. HOWEVER, your view is not how vegas works. You pay first, get good service later. Only exception is waiters. Everyone else you're greasing first.

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That may very well be your experience, but your experience should not translate to "this is how it works for everyone". Your experiences certainly do not match mine.

I've received excellent service at the various poker rooms up-front without tipping a dime. Obviously I've tipped accordingly after the fact - as it should be.

That said, I've never played at Bellagio, and after reading this thread, it seems I'm not missing anything.

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Yup, and that's my problem with the "this is how Las Vegas works" responses. That's not how Vegas works at the Venetian's poker room. It's not how Vegas works at the MGM poker room. Hell, it's not how Vegas works at the craps tables in the B, where the dealers and pit bosses were exceedingly friendly and helpful, and received tips from me accordingly. Only the Bellagio poker room treats its customers that way.

They have a monopoly over certain limits right now so they can get away with it in a certain sense, but judging by the responses on this board they're not making any friends. Given that their market dominance doesn't extend into all areas of the casino, you'd think upper management might want to take a closer look at this issue.

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Like I said a while back, give the free market time to work everything out, and eventually consumers will vote with their feet. If the B's competitors are run by competent people (are they?), they'll adjust to meet the needs of the market. Vegas should be one of the rawest capitalist systems in the world and for the life of me I can't understand why people continue to tolerate more and more policies that suit the House. Maybe I just contradicted my own argument.

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http://www.lasvegasvegas.com/2007/04...at_bellagi.php

The dealer info about Doug D. leaving to open the Mohegan Sun seems to be false, according to the above link.

Paulie

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Thanks. Dealer who started this rumor's name begins with a "C". I'll pass along to BigFishead who she is since he works there.

[pig4bill]

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I've always felt that a tip was warranted when good service is received - not in order to get good service.

I tip the brush well at places I play at because I'm treated well by them. It's one of the reasons I play regularly at the same casinos - I'm treated well when I do go there. It goes hand in hand. I have a real issue with people thinking that it's necessary to tip in order to receive good service. That's bass-ackwards.

- T

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Ah but the fatal flaw there is that's not how Vegas works. You can have your view of the world, and for what it's worth, I agree with your view. HOWEVER, your view is not how vegas works. You pay first, get good service later. Only exception is waiters. Everyone else you're greasing first.

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Bull.

I've been going to Vegas on a regular basis since the 70's. That's NOT how Vegas works.