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Old 04-29-2007, 04:58 PM
SirFelixCat SirFelixCat is offline
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Default 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

Good calls vs 39/14 153 and 68/4/1.0 over 75...? The BB is the 39/14...but I figured that if he has an overpair (KK or AA), I'm getting the implied odds to call on the flop (4:1 pot odds immediately). Preflop, on the button, and with all the calls, I figured it was a standard call. The turn, well again, if he's on an overpair, I now have a gutter and a flush draw, figuring he has at most 1 spade. His turn bet is soooo weak....

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Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<u>Hero (SB): $53.20</u>
<u>BB: $70.40</u>
UTG: $28.50
<u>MP: $13.80</u>
CO: $28.75
BTN: $47.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="red">BB raises to $2.50</font>, MP calls $2, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $5</font>, MP calls $5, CO folds, Hero calls $5

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($25) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $7</font>, MP calls all-in for $6.30, Hero calls $7
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:09 PM
CaptUnlucky CaptUnlucky is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

Hmmm... I think PF is ok after MP and CO both call.
On flop with gutter and running flush I would be looking for more than 4:1 immediate odds, and implied odds aren't looking great because, as you said, BB's betting looks really weak and you're OOP... I just don't like the flop call.

As played, I guess call the turn with the odds you're getting...
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

Am I missing something here?...... I dont get what we are even doing here, no offense..... OOP,low suited one gapper? even with MP &amp; CO along for the ride its not worth it IMHO.

The Flop.... I still dont get what we are doing here..

The turn...... well you have spewed so much money at this point, that the turn is an easy call.

Players like you I either love or hate... dependent if your being lucky or not ...lol
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

implied odds for a running flush are always good because it's uncommon, so can be a very nice addition to other draws/med strong made hand.

i'm not sure you can really call the flop bet without expecting to be getting all in if you hit. reading the bettor as weak does not facilitate this sort of outcome, so it's probably not a great call.

if you knew he was overaggressive or liked to bluff/shove rivers for thin value it would be much better. as it is, i don't like it.

once you get to turn, all your outs should be good (unless someone has a freak AsKs) so call. put in a healthy bet if you hit on the river, since villain almost definitely tries to check down (esp with one player AI).
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

meh i wouldnt call pf unless i had bb coverd. If MP wasnt all in i'd say raise up the turn. IMO calling the flop is spewage unless ur floating him and have him coverd.
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

lol at folding preflop, that's so ridiculously terrible

like as terrible as your flop call. wtf WE HAVE A GUTSHOT
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

Fold pre, OMGOSH 25:1 im like always stacking someone if i flop my flush or straight SERIOUSSLLYYYY.

Fold flop too, barely getting 10:1 and praying he pays you off, seriously your being to optimistic with these implied odds.

Turn is fine, but you wasted tonnes of cash getting here.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

dude, folding preflop is absolutely retarded
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

Easy call preflop.
Fold flop.

As played, call the turn.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: Family pot with lots of ???\'s

excellent analysis.

you monkey.
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