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Old 04-29-2007, 09:23 AM
Groundhog Groundhog is offline
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Default Re: PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

You know, Mike, our e-mails can't reach the right persons at partypoker. Our messages stop at the lowest levels of your support. Is there at partypoker a system of protection players from unjustified blockage? Who is controlling the decisions of your supervisors? And who exactly is responsible for ceasing money from fair players? I am looking forward an answer from you, Mike.
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Old 04-29-2007, 09:31 AM
Our House Our House is offline
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Default Re: PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

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3rd party software that is defined as giving an unfair advantage (a.i./bots/data sharing) is prohibited.
3rd party software that works with your own data is not (pokertracker, etc.)

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Mike, could you please define the "etc." part a little more specifically?

The following programs:

PokerAce HUD
Spade Eye/Sixth Sense
AutoHotKey Scripts

...are (next to PokerTracker) the most commonly used software tools around here.

Knowing Party Poker's official stance on these programs would be very important to the 2+2 community.

Thanks,
OH
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Old 04-29-2007, 09:37 AM
Woodhead Woodhead is offline
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Default Re: PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

Once again excuse for my English ...
I do not object, if ANY materials on my business of playerswill be published. I have received the concrete answer by phone, that Pokertracker also gives advantage to the player. Also programs, except for client Party are forbidden ALL. And experts of your company on a question that why then other players using pokertracker are not blocked, has answered, that it is a matter of time. On this basis it is illegal Party has taken away our money. I shall repeat, that any programs the last half a year did not put. I am am depressed with professionalism of technical support. Earlier they declared, that we boats as at us and that we equally play identical intervals of a course, winning money. But it покерная school, and players (which, by the way, at all do not know each other) SHOULD play equally. Mike, your answer is washed too away. Answer on items (type 1-yes, 2-yes). Whether following programs are resolved at you and whether their use will lead to blocking of the account and confiscation of means.

1 PokerTracker
2 PokerAceHud
3 PokerInsdicator

And
4 Texas Calculatem
5 Poker Office
6 GameTime+
7 Poker Weapon
8 ThePokerDB.com
9 HoldemIndicator.com
10 Poker-Spy.com
11 HoldemGenius
12 Poker Sidekick
13 Paragon Poker Pal
14 PokerEinstein
15 PokerBility.com
16 Sit and Go End Game Tools (sngegt.com)
17 Holdem Partner
18 Insight Poker Hound
19 Poker Pro 2006 by PokerProLabs.com

In case 3 first items are resolved, I demand to unblock accounts, to return money and to apologize players. My login Woodhed181

All names I shall not name, I shall name still
White_v6
Tatjana113
the Others you easily establish
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Old 04-29-2007, 11:11 AM
vortex86 vortex86 is offline
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Default Re: PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

these threee screennames make me think there were bots involved
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Old 04-29-2007, 11:18 AM
Woodhead Woodhead is offline
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Default Re: PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

I don't mind if you release ANY materials of my issue (and other players). I
even think that you should release it, because we did not use prohibited
software and I can't imagine how your investigation team made the
conclusion.

In my phone conversation with partypoker I was told that pokertracker gives
the edge to a player and all programs but party-client are prohibited. I
asked the staff of your company "Why didn't you block other players for
usage of pokertracker?" And received an answer that "This is just the matter
of time." For this reason Partypoker unjustified took our money. I'll stress
that I have not installed any programs for last half a year.

I am "delighted" with the professionalism of your support staff. Earlier
they told us that we were bots, as we had the same starting hands and the
same strategy. But we are studying at poker-school, and players (who, by the
way, even don't know each other) should play the similar strategy.

Mike, your answer is too obscure.

Mike please answer exactly to each of the next points. (for example 1-yes,
2-no). Is this program permitted at partypoker and will not the usage of the
program lead to blockage and seizure of the funds?:

1 PokerTracker
2 PokerAceHud
3 PokerInsdicator

And
4 Texas Calculatem
5 Poker Office
6 GameTime+
7 Poker Weapon
8 ThePokerDB.com
9 HoldemIndicator.com
10 Poker-Spy.com
11 HoldemGenius
12 Poker Sidekick
13 Paragon Poker Pal
14 PokerEinstein
15 PokerBility.com
16 Sit and Go End Game Tools (sngegt.com)
17 Holdem Partner
18 Insight Poker Hound
19 Poker Pro 2006 by PokerProLabs.com


If the answer to first three points is yes, I demand to unblock our
accounts, return money and apologize.

My login is Woodhed181

I would not list all accounts, say only

White_v6
Tatjana113

Other nicknames you can easily establish by yourself.
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Old 04-29-2007, 11:54 AM
carcrass carcrass is offline
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Default Re: PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

OK. I have question, why you guys, who think that are such good profis, have to play using this software and are complaining all the time your accounts are being closed. Of course they will keep closing you, good work partypoker guys, all the players must have equal chances to win. If you are good player you will use your experience and calculate your chances alone!!! You wonna become a shark, stop thinking as a fish!!!!
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:15 PM
carcrass carcrass is offline
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Default Re: PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

And another question, why this software is not allowed at the tournaments like WSOP, hm, never seen Doyle Bronson or Phil Hellmuth or Johny Chan calculating their hand nistory with some software, that's why vote for PURE POKER!
You wonna become a shark, stop thinking as a fish!!!!
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Old 04-29-2007, 01:27 PM
Woodhead Woodhead is offline
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Default Re: PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

If I would like pure poker, I shall play a casino.
Or Bossmedia...
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Old 04-29-2007, 03:18 PM
Groundhog Groundhog is offline
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Default Re: PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

Carcrass, are you a doggy from partypoker?
Everybody here uses Pokertrackrer, PokerAce, PokerOffice. You could not improve your game without analyzing your hands. If you wish a pure play, than internet-poker is not your case, because even official party manager Mike O already confirmed that listed programs are permitted.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:08 PM
Peter_rus Peter_rus is offline
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Default Party go mad

Ok, my account isn't blocked... yet.

I play under the same affilate as Woodhead. The reasons Party gives when block them are ridiculous. I really now scared to play on Party. MikeO, please force investigation of my account "PeterRus" and tell me - can i proceed playing and get my money which i of course will win. I don't want to waste my time winning money for PartyPoker.

I also confirm that Woodhead and other guys that were blocked under this affilate weren't used anything forbidden by Party like any types of bots or pokeredge. I know this exactly if my words mean anything. Main teacher of this limit poker school is a friend of mine and my student in the past. So i know that he as well as his students very probably playing close to at least "not bad" play in limit poker and there is some good probability that i while play my mid-high limits in a very similar way they do can get a ban from PP due to reasons - that there are some players "that play similar play".

Party exceed theirs powers and need to suffer a punishment. Just my opinion.

P.S. I used to ignore all the posts from players i didn't know about Party blockings of accounts in the past. I always thought that these players broke the rules for sure and Party is fair. Now im steaming cause i know that party is absolutely wrong.
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