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Old 04-29-2007, 12:05 AM
jerryf1914 jerryf1914 is offline
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Default what do you do against people who always call cbets?

i play 10$nl and my cbets are called well over 50% of the time. i usually bet around 3/4 pot. the worst part is that i rarely cbet as is, so should i just stop altogether unless i have a hand?
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: what do you do against people who always call cbets?

bluffing loose players doesnt work. just play for value and they'll pay you off when you hit.
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: what do you do against people who always call cbets?

could you please explain what playing for value is exactly?
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: what do you do against people who always call cbets?

make a hand and bet it
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: what do you do against people who always call cbets?

so if i have no hand my only option is just check/fold even with hands like ak?
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: what do you do against people who always call cbets?

valuetown
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: what do you do against people who always call cbets?

If they dont fold don't bluff.

You will eventually make atleast a pair against them. Which is most likely good since (if what you say is true) they dont fold.

Value bet them - bet enough for them to call and extract maximum value from your made hands.
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: what do you do against people who always call cbets?

Against loose/passive players, don't bluff but bet for value with more hands. This can include a whiffed AK high in a headsup pot when checked to, against some opponents.

Against loose/aggressive players, you can bluff with some small frequency, but only build big pots with hands you're willing to felt (this should be a wider range than normal)

Against tight/passive players, BLUFF BLUFF BLUFF but don't bet for value with as many hands. If you flop top pair bad kicker and get called, shut down.

Against tight/aggressive players, avoid getting into pots with them at these stakes, because they're probably fellow 2+2ers and it won't have much expectation involved. Just play poker, the counterstrategy is too complex to be summarized in a paragraph
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: what do you do against people who always call cbets?

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so if i have no hand...

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...and you keep on betting, he will keep calling and you will lose money.

it takes patience to keep folding and leaving dead money out there but remember, he always calls so wait for a hand and then start betting. this is how you play for value.
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: what do you do against people who always call cbets?

so with a whiffed ak in position against a loose player who calls a cbet on the flop and then leads on the turn is an automatic fold?
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