PartyPoker prohibits usage of any side-software?

[Groundhog]

Is this the final answer of partypoker?
If so, the information should be interesting to 90%(may be more) of party-players, who use "third party software", and even more interesting to PartyPoker investors, having PartyGaming shares.

[Akimka]

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Is this the final answer of partypoker?
If so, the information should be interesting to 90%(may be more) of party-players, who use "third party software", and even more interesting to PartyPoker investors, having PartyGaming shares.

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That's why I trying to spread this topic all around but there only a few answers gathered.

This is a last letter from them. If anyone have an idea to got answer from someone who more responsible for his words than John Doe from support it would be great.

Come on people, this is serious!

[jukofyork]

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I don't think if position of partypoker can be ANY clearly expressed. Last letter from them:

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Thank you for contacting us at PartyPoker.com

To clarify, the use of any third party software when playing games on
our sites is prohibited.

We have systems in place that will detect any third party software being
used.

Any player found using third party software on our sites will have their
account closed permanently.

I hope this reassures you of our site integrity.

In case you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact
us. We will be more than happy to help you.

Thank you for choosing us as your online gaming site!

NOTE: Your PartyAccount username and password are confidential
information. No one from the company will ever ask for your password in
a phone call or email. Do not respond to any requests that ask for your
password
..
Kind Regards,

Nicolas K
PartyPoker Customer Care
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PartyPoker, WPC Productions Limited, 711 Europort, Gibraltar

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How do they define "use on"? Are they only talking about bots being "used on" their site, or do they mean things like PAHUD being "used with" their software?

If you keep sending them emails then most likely you can add up the number that say "yes 3rd party software is fine" and "no 3rd party software is banned" to get an idea of what their real policy is, but I doubt you'll ever get a straight answer... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

You could also try sending Mike O' a PM and see if he knows - he did manage to get the vanishing buttons bug fixed for the Speed SNGs fixed quite quickly last time, so I guess he is prolly one of the best people to ask.

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Groundhog]

May be nobody posts here because they strenuously studing cash-out options at partypoker.

[Municipal Hare]

Akimka,

You're pressing PartyPoker.com representatives to condone a list of grey area third-party software. They won't. Their official response would have contained the same vague yet stern language if you had asked the same questions three years ago.

Unofficially the line in the sand begins at apps that help guide your actions – "A.I. programs" and the like. They've been aware of stat trackers and HUDs for ages and have brought no measures against them. Relax.

[BadSeed]

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May be nobody posts here because they strenuously studing cash-out options at partypoker.

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Yep, actually...

[Akimka]

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Unofficially the line in the sand begins at apps that help guide your actions – "A.I. programs" and the like. They've been aware of stat trackers and HUDs for ages and have brought no measures against them. Relax.

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Yep. I got messages from pat (ptracker author) and I come to same opinion as you said - if they will want to ban anyone they always have reason so it's not to any good trying to make them say it loud and clear. Well anyway I think is't just a justification to ban people who they believe using forbidden programs and so on. I am relaxed right now but there only 5 buyins on my partypoker accout [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])))

[Groundhog]

The fact is that last week several party-accounts were blocked on the grounds of using third-party software even without notice while the players did not use any other programs but PokerTracker and PokerAce.

[MikeO/Party]

The policy is pretty clearly defined at http://www.partypoker.com/about_us/g...dvantage.html.
3rd party software that is defined as giving an unfair advantage (a.i./bots/data sharing) is prohibited.
3rd party software that works with your own data is not (pokertracker, etc.).
The confusion in this case seems to be that the agents are strictly referring to prohibited software, and it is being read as "all 3rd party software'.
Nothing has changed recently in the policies.

[Groundhog]

To MikeO/Party
As your departments are giving different answers to the simple question and the players, using PT and PA, were blocked even without notice, the chance of unfair blockage for every partypoker player is rising up to 100%.