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Old 04-25-2007, 07:06 PM
aejones aejones is offline
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Default Re: Another FT Sweat: NOT the 109r, just a fuper

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, do the math, and end this please.

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someone who knows how to do calcs like this do this

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If someone does this they are going to need villian's calling range. You probably have the best idea...

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I think he raises Ax, K6s, K7o, Q7s, Q8o, J8s, J9o, T9o... SCs 45s+, one gappers 57s+, 69s+ or some kind of range like that... obviously all pocket pairs.

Then, I think he calls probably A6s+, A7o+, KJ+, all pocket pairs, and probably QJ and KT.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:21 PM
Keevon Keevon is offline
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Default Re: Another FT Sweat: NOT the 109r, just a fuper

I don't know why everyone is saying the minraise is the worst option - calling is pretty obviously the worst option, with folding close to that, and pushing/miniraising being approximately equal. Miniraising is essentially a push with a little less folding equity, but against his range this isn't a horrible thing for us. Also, if he ever calls preflop and folds after the flop (which is almost always incorrect) then miniraising is probably actually BETTER than pushing since we get more chips for free more often. Overall I think it's a bit FPS but it's certainly not HORRIBLE like everyone is saying.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: Another FT Sweat: NOT the 109r, just a fuper

w/ that he's raising 40% of the time, calling 42% of the time that he raised, vs that range A2o is 36%.

SO, using the numbers before,

58% he folds, +500
15.12% he calls, you win, +1500
26.88% he calls, he wins, -1400

= (290+226.8-376.32)= +140
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:25 PM
THAY3R THAY3R is offline
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Default Re: Another FT Sweat: NOT the 109r, just a fuper

It's dumb because he is did it because he thinks it is creating more fold equity when in reality it has created less fold equity.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:34 PM
NHFunkii NHFunkii is offline
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Default Re: Another FT Sweat: NOT the 109r, just a fuper

I'm pretty sure against your average random donk at a final table, this doesn't affect your fold equity at all, and if it does it could go either way.

ty exit.
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Old 04-25-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Another FT Sweat: NOT the 109r, just a fuper

ansky i disagree.
Busy at the moment so this is really half-assed but I think people underestimate how good an ace is. Plus less likely to get called (have ace in your hand).

Below is against top 20% but also against top 14% calling hands its approx 5% better.

sorry this is [censored] but just have some work to do.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,794,494,592 games 0.015 secs 119,632,972,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.311% 35.95% 00.36% 632834297 6334871.00 { 76s }
Hand 1: 63.689% 63.33% 00.36% 1114744473 6334871.00 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }


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4,951,983,168 games 0.953 secs 5,196,204,793 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.295% 39.84% 02.45% 1932127683 118848826.50 { A5o }
Hand 1: 57.705% 55.25% 02.45% 2679419592 118848826.50 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
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