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Old 04-25-2007, 05:45 PM
ShowMEyourHAND ShowMEyourHAND is offline
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Default AK s in reraised pot

I get AK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in BB

Button is a fine lag player. Overplaying some hands a little bit.

Folded over to button who is raising to 8 dollars
Sb calls. I reraise to 35. button calls, sb folds

Button 250 $
Sb 200
Hero 350 $

Flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Im leading out with 45

he is raising up to 120

fold or all in ?
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Old 04-25-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: AK s in reraised pot

This is a very tough spot, this is one of the problems with reraising a-k out of position in cash games. Almost any play can be justified here. I would personally 3-bet all in on the flop and hope I don't run into 10-10 or 5-5. The problem is you are unlikely to get called by any hands you beat except for maybe a flush draw which greatly reduces the value of the play.

I don't really like folding here, after you re-raise and then hit the flop that hard you are basically comitted once your c-bet gets raised.

-Jerry
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Old 04-25-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: AK s in reraised pot

just get it all in. tptk reraised pot. go broke. he could have AQ spades, QJ spades Q9 spades, air, KQ whatever.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: AK s in reraised pot

Easy push. IMO AA/KK doesn't risk overcaller from sb.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: AK s in reraised pot

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This is a very tough spot, this is one of the problems with reraising a-k out of position in cash games. Almost any play can be justified here. I would personally 3-bet all in on the flop and hope I don't run into 10-10 or 5-5. The problem is you are unlikely to get called by any hands you beat except for maybe a flush draw which greatly reduces the value of the play.

I don't really like folding here, after you re-raise and then hit the flop that hard you are basically comitted once your c-bet gets raised.

-Jerry

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The fact that Hero re-raised preflop makes this hand easier, not harder.

Hero's read makes this an easy push. He's doing this with the NFD, other Ks, combo draws, etc. You are only behind 2 sets, because he never has 2 pair here if he's any good.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: AK s in reraised pot

Don't you set his handrange to AA also

If he 4 bet me. He would play with opencards, so i think i would only call with AA in his spot, maybe kind of risky with Sb still left to act
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: AK s in reraised pot

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Don't you set his handrange to AA also

If he 4 bet me. He would play with opencards, so i think i would only call with AA in his spot, maybe kind of risky with Sb still left to act

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Yeah, he can have AA.

The point is he can have a lot of stuff that you beat, given your read that he overplays his hand sometimes, and the board is drawy.

So you should push because most of the hands you beat will also call given the odds he'll be getting.

If you ran into AA/TT/55 here, it's just variance. Of course they are in his range, but they aren't the majority of his range.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: AK s in reraised pot

OP, I dont think villian is flat calling this preflop with AA. With the flat call inbetween you, he doens't want to play a multi way reraised pot with aces imo, especially when he could LOSE value on the flop that would scare an AK or QQ hand away, where he could of gotten a large % of stacks in pre.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: AK s in reraised pot

I would Fold QQ,AK to a 4 bet. If he 4 bet hero will never have an call IMO it's push or fold, and who want's to push with AK in a pot you know you will get called, and mostly will be big underdog and sometimes you got a coinflip
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: AK s in reraised pot

Nice job preflop.

On the flop IMO you didn't bet enough. I think the pot is 80, I'm betting 60.

As played I'm having a very hard time putting him on KT, but I can put him on 55 or TT, or a combo draw. The only hand I see you thoroughly lashing is KQ maybe.

If there were zero dollars in the pot I'd have to fold. As it stands I'm pushing.
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