Stewart Crushes McCain

[canis582]

He's too smart/enlightened to host a news/debate show.

[craigthedeac]

Tom could you elaborate? I'm interested because I've never heard of someone finding Colbert "hilarious" while Stewart "a hack and is completely unfunny."

The shows are both satirical and while I can understand why one person may enjoy one over the other, I've never found someone who viewed them on opposite sides of the spectrum.

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My point is simply I find the whole "it's a fake news show!" thing to be a bunch of BS.

It USED to be a fake news show, back in the day (Craig Kilborn) they would cover a wide variety of things, and politics was actually a very small piece of what they covered.

In the past 3-4 years Stewert has turned it into primarly a political discussion show.

I firmly believe he has an active agenda to push in the show, to further his own political beliefs and causes, beyond the whole "just being funny" thing.

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The #1 Agenda is to be funny--if it stops being funny it will no longer be on the air.

The show prior to Stewart was tiresome in part because it was just a lame joke show that had no real intent.

JS is obviously a liberal and obviously has a bias..but unlike the vast majority of political shows..he will attack everyone. Bush and the Rep are just very very easy targets, much like Dean/Kerry, because they are incredibly retarded at times.

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Tom could you elaborate? I'm interested because I've never heard of someone finding Colbert "hilarious" while Stewart "a hack and is completely unfunny."

The shows are both satirical and while I can understand why one person may enjoy one over the other, I've never found someone who viewed them on opposite sides of the spectrum.

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I'm not sure how one finds colbert hilarious especially when he was on the Daily Show given Stewart wrote a ton of his material and skits and oversees all the writing on the show.

JS has really taken a step back and allowed the correspondents to shine. And JS really doesn't do much besides the clips/intro and interview -which is more of a chummy type deal...less comedy or policy.

Colbert is hilarious 24/7 because he is always in his character which is off the charts funny- in large part because Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are such douches- hence it getting him his own show.

[troymclur]

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While Jon Stewart is certainly biased - and capable of hiding behind the logo of The Comedy Central if he needs to - I consider him an intelligent man who often makes very good points.

In terms of political stance, the democrats have Stewart/Colbert while the republicans have O'Reilly. They've been going on and off for a long time now. It's just too bad for republicans that O'Reilly seems to be losing.

This is coming from a Stewart fan, though, so I'm sure some will disagree with me here.

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O'Reilly is a populist, and isn't on a COMEDY show. There's a big difference. However, Hannity is a better reference point for Republicans.

Stewart is just full of himself and takes the show too seriously for it to be funny. He's not smart enough to host a true debate/news show, and isn't funny enough to host a comedy show.

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Yet his show is a raging success. You might not think he's funny, but he's clearly 'funny' enough to host a comedy show. The Daily Show broke the stratosphere when Stewart took control. As far as ratings are concerned, he blew Kilborn out of the water.

[troymclur]

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My point is simply I find the whole "it's a fake news show!" thing to be a bunch of BS.

It USED to be a fake news show, back in the day (Craig Kilborn) they would cover a wide variety of things, and politics was actually a very small piece of what they covered.

In the past 3-4 years Stewert has turned it into primarly a political discussion show.

I firmly believe he has an active agenda to push in the show, to further his own political beliefs and causes, beyond the whole "just being funny" thing.

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Stewart basically announced that, while he may *use* humor, he considers what he's doing serious business when he went on CNN Crossfire (but when it's convenient for him, he'll hide behind the fact that the show before his features puppets making prank phone calls).

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How exactly did he 'state' what HE does is serious buisness? Everything that comes out of his mouth is the exact opposite. Him showing the idiocy of news media doesn't equate to an elevated sense self-importance.

[TomCollins]

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Tom could you elaborate? I'm interested because I've never heard of someone finding Colbert "hilarious" while Stewart "a hack and is completely unfunny."

The shows are both satirical and while I can understand why one person may enjoy one over the other, I've never found someone who viewed them on opposite sides of the spectrum.

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Stewart is a pompous jackass while pretending to be cool. Colbert is a pompous jackass while pretending to be a pompous jackass. Colbert is witty and quick. Stewart makes funny faces. Stewart sucks off Dems left and right while plays hardball with anyone else. He is hard on Dems when they aren't socialistic enough for his liking. Colbert plays devil's advocate to anyone on there by mocking a personality. I've never seen Stewart make a single quick/witty comment during an interview. Colbert leaves his interviewee speechless with his quick wit.

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I haven't seen any evidence Stewart is smart.
He bashes things based on feelings and such, not logic. He never logically argues a position. He's trying to do too much.

[TomCollins]

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While Jon Stewart is certainly biased - and capable of hiding behind the logo of The Comedy Central if he needs to - I consider him an intelligent man who often makes very good points.

In terms of political stance, the democrats have Stewart/Colbert while the republicans have O'Reilly. They've been going on and off for a long time now. It's just too bad for republicans that O'Reilly seems to be losing.

This is coming from a Stewart fan, though, so I'm sure some will disagree with me here.

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O'Reilly is a populist, and isn't on a COMEDY show. There's a big difference. However, Hannity is a better reference point for Republicans.

Stewart is just full of himself and takes the show too seriously for it to be funny. He's not smart enough to host a true debate/news show, and isn't funny enough to host a comedy show.

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Yet his show is a raging success. You might not think he's funny, but he's clearly 'funny' enough to host a comedy show. The Daily Show broke the stratosphere when Stewart took control. As far as ratings are concerned, he blew Kilborn out of the water.

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King of Queens ratings > Daily Show ratings. Therefore Kevin James = Comedic Genius.

Come on guys, just because something is popular... This is all subjective. I don't find him funny. A lot of college kids do. I like chocolate ice cream. A lot of people like vanilla. Am I now wrong? This is stupid.

I personally think that Stewart is not a good host of such a show. He was certainly better in the past and has gone down hill. Quite a few people agree with me. We don't have to find the same comedians funny.

[slickss]

Tom, forgive me if I'm wrong, but reading your criticism of Stewart gives me the idea that you're a republican who doesn't like the side Stewart takes and the ideas he has. And if that's the case - it's okay!

When I watch Bill O'Reilly, I do it because I disagree with almost everything he says. In other words, I watch him because I find his (to me) ignorance and stupidity entertaining.

[hmkpoker]

Jon Stewart is a very talented comedian (I've seen his stand-up and he's very, very funny), but his strength isn't challenging political/social commentary (like Chris Rock or George Carlin). Stewart is a witty observationalist, like Jerry Seinfeld. When it comes to tackling big, meaningful issues, he's terrible. My interest in TDS has faded rapidly since 9-11 (when TV wasn't allowed to be funny). It's become nothing but agenda-pushing and no actual jokes. I don't even think they have comedy writers; they just have regular reporters and tell Jon Stewart to make stupid faces and grunts while he delivers the story. But it could be a lot worse. Watch "Real Time with Bill Maher." That show pretends to be a premium channel intellectual commentary, and it is one of the dumbest things on television.

Steven Colbert, however, is brilliant.


For the REAL fake news, just watch FOX News.