Best #1 NFL Draft pick of all-time

[Seadood228]

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Was John Elway ever even the best QB in the league?

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Not statistically, but we all know stats aren't as important when it comes to QBs.

[Jack of Arcades]

And it's not like Elway's postseason record was so much better than Manning's. He lost 3 super bowls ffs.

Elway has never been as good as Manning in any of Manning's top, oh, 5 seasons. The only thing Manning doesn't have that Elway does is:

14,000 passing yards
25 TDs (lol)
an extrea ring.

Manning's career is already better than Elway's.

[Pudge714]

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Was John Elway ever even the best QB in the league?

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Not statistically, but we all know stats aren't as important when it comes to QBs.

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Unless the stat is the number of Rings on your finger.

[MacGuyV]

Granted the AFC was teh suck in the 80's, but it's ridiculous to not give Elway a lot of credit for taking a 'meh' team to the SB 3 times.

[Jack of Arcades]

I never said anything about not giving him credit.

[Seadood228]

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And it's not like Elway's postseason record was so much better than Manning's. He lost 3 super bowls ffs.

Elway has never been as good as Manning in any of Manning's top, oh, 5 seasons. The only thing Manning doesn't have that Elway does is:

14,000 passing yards
25 TDs (lol)
an extrea ring.

Manning's career is already better than Elway's.

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I agree with all of this. And I'm man enough to admit that I think this discussion would be moot if Peyton didn't get a ring this year. The truth is, Peyton is poised to dessimate every QB comparo there has ever been. In 10 years, I think Rice and Manning will be the undisputed best players to ever play football.

Hence my Tiger/Jack comparison.

[lippy]

Ki-Jana Carter.

[CarpeDiem]

OJ
Peyton
Elway
Smith

[Jack of Arcades]

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And it's not like Elway's postseason record was so much better than Manning's. He lost 3 super bowls ffs.

Elway has never been as good as Manning in any of Manning's top, oh, 5 seasons. The only thing Manning doesn't have that Elway does is:

14,000 passing yards
25 TDs (lol)
an extrea ring.

Manning's career is already better than Elway's.

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I agree with all of this. And I'm man enough to admit that I think this discussion would be moot if Peyton didn't get a ring this year. The truth is, Peyton is poised to dessimate every QB comparo there has ever been. In 10 years, I think Rice and Manning will be the undisputed best players to ever play football.

Hence my Tiger/Jack comparison.

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But Elway isn't Jack Nicklaus. I don't know enough about golf to throw out a comparison, but Peyton passed him years ago. The three guys standing in the way of Peyton being the best QB ever are Marino, Young, and Montana.

[TheNoodleMan]

Its nice to see that people have found new ways to slight Peyton Manning.