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Old 04-24-2007, 12:33 AM
El Tigre El Tigre is offline
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Default Q10 big draw

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($52.95)
Button ($29.75)
SB ($38.75)
BB ($21)
UTG ($30.60)
Hero ($48.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($3.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $47.3</font>

Normally I would think this was standard against a normal opponent, but this guy was 37.5/4/.5 Is this too agressive with this read taken into account?
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: Q10 big draw

This isn't bad but in position I think bet/calling is okay, and that C/Ring(as opposed to leading out) is probably best.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Q10 big draw

why such a big raise? Just make a 15-20 raise and get the rest in on the turn.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Q10 big draw

I agree with the above poster and probably would have just called that bet.

I also would have just folded this pre-flop from that position. If you were on the button or cut-off a call would be ok but I think theres too many people left behind to make this call. If UTG had folded I wouldn't be opposed to leading with this hand.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Q10 big draw

Well he had $24 left, so pretty much any legit raise leaves him with 4-9 dollars so I figured if he was going to call that then he would call the shove. Does that make sense?
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:46 AM
tarheeljks tarheeljks is offline
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Default Re: Q10 big draw

just call, the flop rr.

if he's only raising w/4% of hands, why are you calling his p/f raise?
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: Q10 big draw

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Well he had $24 left, so pretty much any legit raise leaves him with 4-9 dollars so I figured if he was going to call that then he would call the shove. Does that make sense?

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I think some of the above posters and myself included missed stack sizes. With stack sizes I probably would have played it post flop just like you.

However, stack sizes make your pre-flop play even worse. Your calling his raise with Q-10 suited for implied odds and he is not giving you enough with that small stack.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:50 AM
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just call, the flop rr.

if he's only raising w/4% of hands, why are you calling his p/f raise?

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If villain had a bigger stack and OP had better position I don't mind this call. In that scenario he would be getting good enough implied odds to play this hand. However, with villains small stack and OP's bad position I don't like it.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:55 AM
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very easy fold PF, i'd play the flop the same
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: Q10 big draw

on flop -- the reason we fast play combo draws is to add folding equity to an already strong draw and to add a bit of deception to our play

given his pfr of 4, and the fact that he opted to check min raise the flop instead of continuation bet it, i think we can assume that we have 0 folding equity..

we have position, a huge draw, a passive opponent, and direct odds + implied odds

calling cr &gt;&gt; pushing over cr
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