short stacks at the table

[nhl94god]

What strategy do you guys use with short stacks?

When they push all in and are 20bb deep....you have AQ, AJ...any pp.

When they are in the blinds or to your right and you are in late pos. with a SC, or low PP and usually its a easy raise but in the blinds there are two short stacks. Just fold and play tight until they pick up some chips, or leave the table? Cont. to raise as usual and fold when they shove with sub par hands?

Or any other situations with shortys i would just like to find a optimal way of playing them.

[King Spew]

My goal with shorties is to remove them from the table. But I can "generally" only do this if I have the best hand.

Ergo, I tighten up post flop. I don't mind playing SC and small pockets to a 3X raise from shorty. I'll drop QUICKLY post-flop and rarely bluff. It is most likely EV- to play against shorty this way, but the chance of removing shorty who will be replaced by a fuller stack makes the move EV neutral. At least that is what I tell myself.

I am not the Table Police. But I am Deputized to draw my weapons against a scummy villain.

[1p0kerboy]

We cannot stop them. We can only hope to contain them.

That is all.

Oh, and steal every blind they post.

[Falc]

King Spew, the only shortstacks you are going to "remove" is the bad ones since the regulars will reload when they bust and playing -EV versus the regulars can't be a good idea.

[Vegetarian]

The regular short stacks all suck.

[diebitter]

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We cannot stop them. We can only hope to contain them.

That is all.

Oh, and steal every blind they post.

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well, teh good ones. The bad ones are pretty straightforward, put em all in with good, but not supreme hands. The nitwits go in anyway. I had one go in to me putting him AI with my AK with him holding 73s today. Jesus.

[pterodactyl_]

I slow down with A-rag, SC, low pairs and other trash I raise in late position when I've got 20BB shorties in the blinds to my left. If theres a better seat open at another table I'll just leave because they throw off my game. If I stay I just play tighter when they're still in the hand.

[KJatl]

In regards to postflop play against a shorty, I regard TPTK as the absolute nuts against these guys. I like overpushing
the flop because they're calling range is often extremely loose. (This is on Bodog btw)

My range for calling a shorty's AI preflop raise is AQ-AK, and any pp TT+. If shorty was a full stack but lost a big pot very recently and could easily be on tilt or just wanting to 'get it over with' rather than reload, I'll expand it to hands like AT+, KQ, 55+.

[MyTurn2Raise]

verse the tight, decent shortstacks (decent meaning they might breakeven):
I laugh at them and call them losers in chat.
I ask if their husbands play poker, too.
I steal their blinds with any two cards.
I don't pay them off when they raise.

Against the loose-fishy shortstacks:
never talk to them. They are fish. They will just spew money a min buyin at a time. They'll call raises with K7s and stack off on A74 flops. They are fun to have at the table.

[Jurrr]

BTW I talked to a fellow who shortstacks Party NL200 he said he was 0.2 ptbb/100h over 100k hands. I dunno if it can be true, that's what he said. Seems like such a waste of time and table space if true.