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Old 04-20-2007, 09:47 AM
jimmykingy jimmykingy is offline
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Default do you make this flop call knowing youre behind.....

no read on players but the guy who repopped me is solid, other short stacks not sure about. it was shorthanded but recently filled up. i'm MP1 with A6 spades...

OnGame's Room No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

($172.25)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($666)</font>
SB ($342.70)
BB ($453.70)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($95.45)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($155)</font>
MP1 ($591)
MP2 ($285)
MP3 ($130)

Preflop: is with , .
UTG calls $6, UTG+1 calls $6, MP1 calls $6, MP2 calls $6, MP3 folds, folds, Button calls $6, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($39) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $30</font>, UTG+1 calls $30, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $100</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $300</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $59.45 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $119 (All-In), MP1 ....

obv i repopped as i wanted to get allin with the 2 shortstacks as they could be on any draw a rag ace and i generally think its +ev. then the 1 guy behind i gotta get through repops, assuming hes not some total nit who limped AA or QQ then thi rerasie leaves him with 88, AQ A8 Q8.

the problem is its 200 more to call and pot is 700 odd, so is it +ev to call or do you shove ( personall i thinks thats horrid as hes on auto call) or fold....
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:05 AM
MrPapaGiorgio MrPapaGiorgio is offline
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Default Re: do you make this flop call knowing youre behind.....

Just calling is awful. How can you call off over 2/5 of your remaining stack? This is either a push or fold. I prefer the push -- that extra $250 in the pot gives you good value on your nut flush draw.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:06 AM
MrPapaGiorgio MrPapaGiorgio is offline
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Default Re: do you make this flop call knowing youre behind.....

And if you just call the flop and hit, you lose your market on the turn because it's obvious you have spades. You have to get the money in on the flop if you're going to continue with this hand.
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