15/30 sh

[Heir_Aparent]

villain seems predictable and under average for the game. nontheless somewhat solid. how do u like my line?

Seat 1: pist2000 ($1055 in chips)
Seat 2: 1profiler ($594 in chips)
Seat 3: Riverloser ($1884 in chips)
Seat 4: Heir_Aparent ($681 in chips)
Seat 5: TeamMCO ($518 in chips)
Riverloser: posts small blind $10
Heir_Aparent: posts big blind $15
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Heir_Aparent [5c Ks]
TeamMCO: raises $15 to $30
pist2000: folds
1profiler: calls $30
Riverloser: folds
Heir_Aparent: calls $15
*** FLOP *** [Kh 5s Qs]
Heir_Aparent: checks
TeamMCO: bets $15
1profiler: calls $15
Heir_Aparent: raises $15 to $30
TeamMCO: calls $15
1profiler: calls $15
*** TURN *** [Kh 5s Qs] [9h]
Heir_Aparent: bets $30
TeamMCO: calls $30
1profiler: raises $30 to $60
Heir_Aparent: calls $30
TeamMCO: calls $30
*** RIVER *** [Kh 5s Qs 9h] [4c]
Heir_Aparent: checks
TeamMCO: checks
1profiler: bets $30
Heir_Aparent: raises $30 to $60
TeamMCO: folds
1profiler: raises $30 to $90
Heir_Aparent: folds
1profiler collected $488 from pot

[MrPapaGiorgio]

flat call the river IMO

[drbk2]

Yuck. I don't like check raising the river here because you get 3 bet by all kinds of crap a lot, a lot of hands that beat you and a lot of hands that you beat. I think bet calling the river is best here. I think check raising with the intention of folding to a 3 bet is not a good idea online ever.

[Heir_Aparent]

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Yuck. I don't like check raising the river here because you get 3 bet by all kinds of crap a lot, a lot of hands that beat you and a lot of hands that you beat. I think bet calling the river is best here. I think check raising with the intention of folding to a 3 bet is not a good idea online ever.

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i think thats silly, especially in this situation. you cant make blanket statements like 'checkraisign with intention of folding is never good'. against a predictable player im never getting out of line 3 bet by anything I beat here. what does he 3 bet the river with that i beat here? its absurd.

the only reason i didnt 3 bet/fold to cap on turn is because if he had a q9 type hand and got raise happy i ddnt wanna get blown off the best hand. in retrospect i think thats the best play, because q9 from this guy will never cap, and honestly this is j10 90%~ of the time. one question though, is folding to a cap bad because I have odds to fill up? if thats the case it seems that maybe just check callign river is best, since i really doubt im missing any value anyways.

[MrPapaGiorgio]

check calling the river is the best for sure. it would have been better to 3-bet the turn than c/r the river because it seems clear TeamMCO is drawing.

[Heir_Aparent]

ya but i think it was an a-10/aj type hand because he was a huge fish. either way there are at least two better lines than mine, i was just torn about not getting enough value out of my hand if i was ahead, but also getting out vs. a predictable opponent seemed like the right choice

[green100b]

Putting in that much money and folding for 1 more bet on the river is a losing play in the long run, shorthanded with 2 pair. So many players in that game witll be 3 betting you with hands you can beat you;dbe surprised.

[rafiki]

Ya I think I'd rather get to showdown here.

[Heir_Aparent]

i think some of these responses are simplistic and dumb. i included information on the player, TELL ME SOME HANDS hes 3 betting me with that i beat.

I played it bad, but this kind of input I think is very weak. and no, i wouldnt be suprised, ive played in this game plenty. on the river its 99% im beat.

[MrPapaGiorgio]

i still dont get why you check raised the river if you didnt 3 bet the turn