$100NL: JJ facing all-in

[rocco1999]

Here is the hand with results... my thinking here was right and ive put him on some combo draw, im a small favorite here(57%).

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $429.39
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $152.70</font>
UTG: $83.50
MP: $151.40
CO: $100.60
BTN: $130.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $1, CO calls $1, BTN folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, MP calls $5, CO calls $5, SB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($19) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $94.60</font>, Hero calls $82.60

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($208.20) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($208.20) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $208.20

CO had 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Sixes)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pairs, Jacks and Sixes)

[13_Xerxes]

Nice call, I put him on 78cc (but I fold here, if he got a set some times, we are very bad).

[HoldEmNewby]

Quick analysis (take with a grain of salt as i tend to f these up), Pokerstove says:

Hand 0: { JcJh } 34.487%
Hand 1: { 6d6h, 6d6s, 6h6s, 4c4d, 4c4h, 4d4h, Ac4c, Tc8c, Tc7c, 9d6d, 9h6h, 9s6s, 8c7c, 8s7s, 8c5c, 7c5c, 7c4c, 6d4d, 6h4h }65.513%

To break even:
xq=yz
x+y=100
where x=% times we call and lose
where y=% times we call and win
q=amount $ we need to put in to make call
z=amount $ in pot at present

In this case:
82.6x=125.6y
x+y=100
solve for y

82.6 (100-y)=125.6y
8260 - 82.6y=125.6y
8260/208.2=y
y=39.67%

So we need to come out ahead about 40%, but based on our calculations we're only coming out ahead 35% (and we've given villain a pretty broad range). Props for the call (and not getting sucked out on); but unless you had a read that villain could be doing this with some random crap a good % of the time I think you should have folded.

[mdkrahn]

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I fold JJ and call AA.


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why?

he never has has QQ-AA here.

[phantom_lord]

I'd probably call here.

[Mike MacIntosh]

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Quick analysis (take with a grain of salt as i tend to f these up), Pokerstove says:

Hand 0: { JcJh } 34.487%
Hand 1: { 6d6h, 6d6s, 6h6s, 4c4d, 4c4h, 4d4h, Ac4c, Tc8c, Tc7c, 9d6d, 9h6h, 9s6s, 8c7c, 8s7s, 8c5c, 7c5c, 7c4c, 6d4d, 6h4h }65.513%

To break even:
xq=yz
x+y=100
where x=% times we call and lose
where y=% times we call and win
q=amount $ we need to put in to make call
z=amount $ in pot at present

In this case:
82.6x=125.6y
x+y=100
solve for y

82.6 (100-y)=125.6y
8260 - 82.6y=125.6y
8260/208.2=y
y=39.67%

So we need to come out ahead about 40%, but based on our calculations we're only coming out ahead 35% (and we've given villain a pretty broad range). Props for the call (and not getting sucked out on); but unless you had a read that villain could be doing this with some random crap a good % of the time I think you should have folded.

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You are in the right direction. But your range for the villain is to tight (mostly made up of 2pair/sets). Where are the naked FDs and TP hands?

BTW, you do not need to go through that long calculation to figure out your needed equity. Simple pot odds is sufficient.

[johnnyrocket]

so many people fold here, he isnt pushing this high over the top with a made hand, he is probably drawing, i insta call this bet

[Isura]

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I fold JJ and call AA.


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why?

he never has has QQ-AA here.

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More equity vs combo draws (but not much more).

[Isura]

I would call this. No straight or flush possible on flop, weird action -&gt; call for me. I think you see A9/combo draws enough to make calling correct.

[HoldEmNewby]

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Quick analysis (take with a grain of salt as i tend to f these up), Pokerstove says:

Hand 0: { JcJh } 34.487%
Hand 1: { 6d6h, 6d6s, 6h6s, 4c4d, 4c4h, 4d4h, Ac4c, Tc8c, Tc7c, 9d6d, 9h6h, 9s6s, 8c7c, 8s7s, 8c5c, 7c5c, 7c4c, 6d4d, 6h4h }65.513%

To break even:
xq=yz
x+y=100
where x=% times we call and lose
where y=% times we call and win
q=amount $ we need to put in to make call
z=amount $ in pot at present

In this case:
82.6x=125.6y
x+y=100
solve for y

82.6 (100-y)=125.6y
8260 - 82.6y=125.6y
8260/208.2=y
y=39.67%

So we need to come out ahead about 40%, but based on our calculations we're only coming out ahead 35% (and we've given villain a pretty broad range). Props for the call (and not getting sucked out on); but unless you had a read that villain could be doing this with some random crap a good % of the time I think you should have folded.

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You are in the right direction. But your range for the villain is to tight (mostly made up of 2pair/sets). Where are the naked FDs and TP hands?

BTW, you do not need to go through that long calculation to figure out your needed equity. Simple pot odds is sufficient.

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I see your point about the tight range. Def. a call then.