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Old 04-17-2007, 05:55 PM
23act 23act is offline
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Default Re: I hate folding Aces, but what else is new..

dead monies -> nice pot odds - how could you not want to call with AA given that board?
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding Aces, but what else is new..

I'd still fold, BB is shoving into CO that lead into the pfr and the pfr, who 3bet flop and looks commited.
I think a set is much much more likely than a combodraw.

With that many callers, i think smooth calling was best here, not raising, btw.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding Aces, but what else is new..

Looks like a big draw and you're getting good odds to call here vs a draw. so much dead $ in pot. I doubt someone limp/calls CO with 77 or 88, and DEF not QQ, so it looks like ur up against 56dd, 9Tdd, or like JTdd. CAlling here all day is def +EV.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding Aces, but what else is new..

BTW, People don't need FE these days to stick it in with a draw. With all the $ in the pot, people feel the need to stick it in with a good draw and gambool it up. If he rele cared about FE with his draw, IMO, he would c/r this flop. By leading he's intending to take the pot/have control in the hand and draw with the lead. I'd love to hear the results. This is honestly bad fold gettin these odds with the HUGE chance he's drawing b/c all the draws out there and i people in late position almost NEVER limp 77 or 88 preflop, so he can ONLY have a draw IMO, and every once in a while 78 but very unlikely that leads; it mostly c/r to get to fold out a lot of hands to protect itself instead of lead/shoving.
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding Aces, but what else is new..

Results: I was pretty unhappy and folded but I still feel it is close. While I didn't have any reads on villain, I'm pretty sure he is a regular. In hindsight I think a call is probably right, but a solid player is not doing this without a big combo draw or a set. For the full tilt regs villain is KCraig.
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding Aces, but what else is new..

holla combo draw...
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding Aces, but what else is new..

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BTW, People don't need FE these days to stick it in with a draw. With all the $ in the pot, people feel the need to stick it in with a good draw and gambool it up. If he rele cared about FE with his draw, IMO, he would c/r this flop. By leading he's intending to take the pot/have control in the hand and draw with the lead. I'd love to hear the results. This is honestly bad fold gettin these odds with the HUGE chance he's drawing b/c all the draws out there and i people in late position almost NEVER limp 77 or 88 preflop, so he can ONLY have a draw IMO, and every once in a while 78 but very unlikely that leads; it mostly c/r to get to fold out a lot of hands to protect itself instead of lead/shoving.

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You are misreading the hand.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding Aces, but what else is new..

Wait do people Fold Axd here as the BB?
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