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Old 04-17-2007, 04:07 PM
c_me_loose c_me_loose is offline
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Default 100 NL AA, scary flopp

Wrote this my self as best as i could remember, havent runned it threw any hand converter

SB is a solid player TAG, wouldnt have called a raise on the sb without some sort of hand, i either putting him on a-k or something that beats me, okey fold?

Button ($230)
SB ($130)
BB ($36.30)
UTG ($78)
MP ($156)
Hero ($98)

Preflop: Hero is CO with As,Ad.
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9.50) Q, K, 10(Harts) (2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero raises $22,
SB raises to 129$
Hero folds
Final pot: 169,50$
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:10 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL AA, scary flopp

You have to fold to the shove but I might call the flop and try to keep the pot small
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:11 PM
c_me_loose c_me_loose is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL AA, scary flopp

jeah thats one way to play it, might be the best way: p just wanted to raise for information, and i think i got it^^
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: 100 NL AA, scary flopp

To SB, you raising a donkbet on this board after having raised preflop looks pretty freakin scary. You're probably folding out the vast majority of hands that you beat (one pairs, basically, or TJ or something like that) so I probably prefer calling the donkbet on the flop.

Gotta dump it once he pushes though, unless it's JK you're beat every time.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:27 PM
RobBizzle RobBizzle is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL AA, scary flopp

Yeah this is an easy fold once he pushes. That is a nasty looking board for your hand. I don't understand why a flop call would would be ok here though. Could someone explain it. It seems to me like a call would be the worst of the three.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: 100 NL AA, scary flopp

I like raising the flop but i'd make a pot sized raise to 28ish, cause he probly has odds to draw only raising his 9$ bet 13 more dollors. Obviously fold to shove unless u had the ace of hearts.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:44 PM
Xanta Xanta is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL AA, scary flopp

Raising more or less turns our hand into a bluff here. He's always folding one pair (except maybe KJ which he'd probably fold preflop with) since the board absolutely smashed our preflop raising range (when we raise it looks like a huge hand)
He's almost never folding KQ, never folding sets or AJ obv. The combination of these two things means that our raise is neither for value nor to push out better hands, which means that it sucks.

We've got position, we can control the pot size on the turn and fold if the board gets too scary, and we've got a hand that will win at showdown with a good frequency. So caling is OK. Folding here seems really weak/tight to me. I mean, we have a gutshot, what else do you want? (jk)
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:02 PM
RobBizzle RobBizzle is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL AA, scary flopp

I don't see how we can call with there being three hearts on the flop and we don't have one.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: 100 NL AA, scary flopp

Wow, didn't notice that the flop was monotone. OP, you should probably highlight that if you want some better feedback, super easy to miss.

If that's the case, you're going to get shoved over SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much by A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] x so I would probably fold this to the first bet. People love overplaying the naked ace and you don't have a hand that can take the heat.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:14 PM
c_me_loose c_me_loose is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL AA, scary flopp

xanta how can u even think of calling here? its like throwing ur money out of the window, if i call and he has k-j with any hart am still 50/50 to win... and any other hand crushes ours c
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