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Old 04-16-2007, 03:58 PM
Luisgallo Luisgallo is offline
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Default 16$ stars - QQ after 2 all ins

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t575)
UTG+1 (t1407)
MP1 (t1445)
MP2 (t1920)
Hero (t1365)
CO (t1590)
Button (t1330)
SB (t1380)
BB (t2488)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t575</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t1920</font>, Hero?
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: 16$ stars - QQ after 2 all ins

any notes?
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:10 PM
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: 16$ stars - QQ after 2 all ins

Call.
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: 16$ stars - QQ after 2 all ins

Without reads, I probably lay it down. You're getting odds for the all-in, but I think preserving your stack is more important this early. You can outplay your opponents later, instead of flipping for 3500 chips here.
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: 16$ stars - QQ after 2 all ins

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Without reads, I probably lay it down. You're getting odds for the all-in, but I think preserving your stack is more important this early. You can outplay your opponents later, instead of flipping for 3500 chips here.

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The only thing is.. you're not exactly flipping.

UTG is shortstack and if he's bad enough he'll push a large amount of hands here such as 22+/KT+/and possibly QJs.

And MP2 knows that UTG is shortstack so he could be pushing to isolate with a large range of hands here such as 99+ (maybe even 88) and AQ+.

Against these two ranges it'd be pretty bad to fold QQ here.
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:20 PM
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Against these two ranges it'd be pretty bad to fold QQ here.

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Agreed
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:53 PM
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I'm definitley calling here. I often see short stacks shoving UTG very wide not wanting to get in on their BB, and youre ahead of the callers range as well. Even if you are flipping against the callers hand there area ton of extra chips in this pot, and often you will be ahead of both of them.
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: 16$ stars - QQ after 2 all ins

Shove. UTG isn't really even a concern b/c he could be shoving with a ton of different hands. Unless you have a note on MP2 that says that he's very tight and/or solid, this is a pretty easy shove.
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Old 04-16-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: 16$ stars - QQ after 2 all ins

Would it depend on how many chips hero had? I call here, but fold with 2000 chips.

edit wrote "here" instead of "hero"
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