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I know its 100NL, but I just moved up and I am still a uNL type player. I find these hands tough to play/extract value etc...hope discussion will help players about these thin hands. No reads
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) BB ($52.45) UTG ($78.50) MP ($64.65) CO ($20.25) Hero ($98.50) SB ($57.50) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q ![]() ![]() 1 fold, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, MP calls $4. Flop: ($11.50) K ![]() ![]() ![]() MP checks, Hero bets $9, MP calls $9. Turn: ($29.50) 5 ![]() MP bets $10</font>, Hero ? |
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I really like a call here, I realize it's a really small bet, but if you raise, you're getting a lot of hands to fold.. and if you fold, you're losing a lot of value from retards.
I think, barring a 4, A, 6 on the river, I call pretty much any bet. |
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I'd raise. His check call is suspicious to me. I'd rather raise now and have him fold than for a safe river to come and for him to make another small bet.
It's a safe board for him to extract with a set. |
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Call turn. Need more information on the river, lots of different scenarios but I probably call any river, bet if checked on a safe river and check behind if a straight falls.
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I call here always, but have really started wondering recently if we are basically just saying to an observant player "I have a marginal K here". This could allow him to shove any scary river and push us off the best hand.
That said, do villains bluff like this often? Are they that observant? No idea. |
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I call here always, but have really started wondering recently if we are basically just saying to an observant player "I have a marginal K here". This could allow him to shove any scary river and push us off the best hand. That said, do villains bluff like this often? Are they that observant? No idea. [/ QUOTE ] Your right. This is what we say. And if the stacks were bigger and the villain was good, this would be a terrible move. But with this stack against ur usual microstakes viallin this is the best line. |
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Call turn. Need more information on the river, lots of different scenarios but I probably call any river, bet if checked on a safe river and check behind if a straight falls. [/ QUOTE ] you dont have river info when you make a decision on the turn? rest of hand : Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($52.45) UTG ($78.50) MP ($64.65) CO ($20.25) Hero ($98.50) SB ($57.50) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $4. Flop: ($11.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, MP calls $9. Turn: ($29.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $59.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $69.5</font>. River: ($158.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $158.50 botched it [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] he had 33. |
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Turn is easy.
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Call turn. Need more information on the river, lots of different scenarios but I probably call any river, bet if checked on a safe river and check behind if a straight falls. [/ QUOTE ] I don't bet on a safe river if he checks to me.. I'm happy to see a showdown. |
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Hmmmmmmmm. Well, if you just called turn and river came 7d and he shoves, you probably think "bullsh*t" and call.
Alternatively, maybe you think "oh-oh, he has trapped me and my marginal K is ng" and fold. I think at the moment I myself would do the former, but want to improve so I do the latter. FWIW, the infamous "raising for information" (boooooooooo!) could have saved you some monies on the turn if you'd repopped to say $30 and folded to the inevitable push. Poker is hard. |
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