NL200 Top set, turn decision

[TwistedEcho]

Board: Td 9s 8s 6s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.409% 51.79% 01.61% 433 13.50 { AcAs, AdAs, AhAs, KcKs, KdKs, KhKs, 77, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, As8s, As7s, KsQs, KsJs, QsJs }
Hand 1: 46.591% 44.98% 01.61% 376 13.50 { ThTs }

Ok there is a range with more flushes (i can't give him more 7x hands since that doesn't make sense!) I also included AA/KK but only with spades.

Same range without Ts

Board: Td 9s 8s 6s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.005% 59.21% 01.79% 495 15.00 { AcAs, AdAs, AhAs, KcKs, KdKs, KhKs, 77, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, As8s, As7s, KsQs, KsJs, QsJs }
Hand 1: 38.995% 37.20% 01.79% 311 15.00 { TcTh }

[Djeorge]

I think I just caall here because he probably has a weaker hand that you have beaten badly 35% of the time or something and the rest of the time you can just boat up on the river. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[TwistedEcho]

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Line is so weird i have to call.

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I mean, i assume villian had AK-AJs since thats the only line that kind of makes sense.

Hes one of those passive players who can't fold soooted aces, so just calls preflop despite raise/reraise and being OOP.

Flops a flushdraw which donks never fold, and he check calls because hes weak and then shoves when he hits. But if he plays these hands like this its certainly possible he has AA/KK and was trapping (he might even have no spade so was planning to check call allin with AA/KK on the turn until the spade hit and decided to push to stop it going check check and seeing a fourth spade on river)

[Vegas_VIP]

Come on guys, what are you all saying here. In this spot I dont think villian does that without a 7 or a flush. You are beat on the turn, and if you continue you are essentially drawing when you are beat WITH BAD ODDS.

[Abramovic]

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Come on guys, what are you all saying here. In this spot I dont think villian does that without a 7 or a flush. You are beat on the turn, and if you continue you are essentially drawing when you are beat WITH BAD ODDS.

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Why do you think he only does it with straight or flush?

What we're getting at, is that he does this with other stuff aswell.

[Galapogos]

First thing I thought when I looked at this was JJ. Could even be QQ I guess if the gut shot made him feel more secure with his hand.

[mertzo]

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Come on guys, what are you all saying here. In this spot I dont think villian does that without a 7 or a flush. You are beat on the turn, and if you continue you are essentially drawing when you are beat WITH BAD ODDS.

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Omfg! BAD ODDS :O

Id snapcall, three basic reasons.
Wierd line + Bad player + RLY good hand = call.

[TwistedEcho]

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Come on guys, what are you all saying here. In this spot I dont think villian does that without a 7 or a flush. You are beat on the turn, and if you continue you are essentially drawing when you are beat WITH BAD ODDS.

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Did you not real all the posts? We can call vs that range anyway, and there are probably some hands in his range we are ahead of still.

[Symbolic]

Hmmm, my initial reaction was fold. A big bet from a loose passive fish normally means a big hand. But after looking at the poker stove calculations maybe not. Even he he only has straights and flushes we're have 37% equity. Juuuust enough to call profitably. If you don't think he does this with anything else and you don't wanna gamble then fold otherwise it's a call I think.

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