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Re: Live, Full Ring Continuation Betting
Don't do it. Be ready to give up AK/AQ in this spot, you will lose a lot of money if you routinely c-bet with them into many opponents. Wait for them to flop TPTK, one of the 4 in the pot will hit the top card with worse kicker and pay you off.
Another dangerous thing is that you'll c-bet and one or two people call, and then get an ace on the turn. The pot is quite large, but your standing is highly uncertain. Did someone hit the rag part of his ace rag on the flop, and how has two pair? Did someone just get a good draw on the turn? Did someone flop a set and you turned a bad card? Hard to tell, which is a bad thing in a large pot. |
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Re: Live, Full Ring Continuation Betting
you're def getting to much preflop equity with 4 callers to cbet air. the value of the continuation bet comes from getting smaller pairs to fold and an aggressive table image. if you have a good draw, (not a gutshot) then it's fine because it makes you harder to read, but if people aren't going to fold better hands than yours its obv spew to put money in when you are almost always behind.
don't cbet with a gutshot, say on a QT4 board even with a backdoor nut flush draw, too often you are against a straight draw that completes when you hit your pair. keep the pot small with a small hand |
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Re: Live, Full Ring Continuation Betting
If there are seven limpers, then u are prolly on the button. In that case, if I have the typical 1-2 buy-in, say 100 or less, I just move in and try to take down the 17 bucks. If I end up in a race, well sobeit. Prolly not playing deep stack poker at 1-2 and if I am Im no worse than 50-50. only slight chance an early limper has AA or KK.
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Re: Live, Full Ring Continuation Betting
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I am putting this strategy question in Brick and Mortar because I think it specifically depends on how 1/2NL runs in B&M. [/ QUOTE ] betting no pair/no draw into 4+ players on the flop is a mistake in nearly any setting |
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Re: Live, Full Ring Continuation Betting
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I am putting this strategy question in Brick and Mortar because I think it specifically depends on how 1/2NL runs in B&M. [/ QUOTE ] betting no pair/no draw into 4+ players on the flop is a mistake in nearly any setting [/ QUOTE ] I'll often bet here because you can be sure of getting checked to again on the turn. Betting the flop let's you see the river card a significant majority of the time. If your opponents aren't too sharp, you can make a relatively small continuation bet of like $25 into the $75 pot. Remember, the reason you have four opponents is because they called your pre-flop raise with hands like J9o. |
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Re: Live, Full Ring Continuation Betting
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I am putting this strategy question in Brick and Mortar because I think it specifically depends on how 1/2NL runs in B&M. [/ QUOTE ] betting no pair/no draw into 4+ players on the flop is a mistake in nearly any setting [/ QUOTE ] I'll often bet here because you can be sure of getting checked to again on the turn. Betting the flop let's you see the river card a significant majority of the time. If your opponents aren't too sharp, you can make a relatively small continuation bet of like $25 into the $75 pot. Remember, the reason you have four opponents is because they called your pre-flop raise with hands like J9o. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. This is what I was going for. It just very very rarely works. |
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Re: Live, Full Ring Continuation Betting
Ok... so here is the follow-up question:
Everyone is piling on that cbetting into four players is a huge leak. Fine. But what if you have one caller and you are in position? What percentage of the time should you cbet (if they are the typical 1/2 bad player)? What about two callers? I can't imagine that I am abandoning cbetting just because I am playing 1/2. |
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Re: Live, Full Ring Continuation Betting
With one caller, definitely c-bet.
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Re: Live, Full Ring Continuation Betting
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I am putting this strategy question in Brick and Mortar because I think it specifically depends on how 1/2NL runs in B&M. [/ QUOTE ] betting no pair/no draw into 4+ players on the flop is a mistake in nearly any setting [/ QUOTE ] I'll often bet here because you can be sure of getting checked to again on the turn. Betting the flop let's you see the river card a significant majority of the time. If your opponents aren't too sharp, you can make a relatively small continuation bet of like $25 into the $75 pot. Remember, the reason you have four opponents is because they called your pre-flop raise with hands like J9o. [/ QUOTE ] I'd rather check to see a free turn card than to pay to see a "free" river card. You could be reverse-dominated or already drawing near dead... your chances are bleak against this many players. |
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