Fold top set on flop?

[nickabourisk]

Sorry, no stats on anyone here (new table).

Pacific Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $2</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in $0.5</font>, Hero calls.

I would appreciate suggestions/criticism for each street (esp. flop). I don't like my flop play here and I don't really like my hand right now seeing as there are 5 people in a capped PF pot (AK for the nuts). I still have a fullhouse/quads redraw on turn and river.

River: The bettor only had $0.50 left (quarter BB) and the pot is huge so I think it's an easy call even though I'm probably beat. What if it's 1 BB? What if it goes check, bet, raise and is 2BB back to me?

Would anyone consider my play too passive here with top set?

[jstill]

too passive? what are u supposed to lead the turn

ur flop play is fine, 3betting is fine u have 10 outs vs AK and its sometimes JJ TT AQ KQ ect. after the cap id probably go passive on a blank turn as well (i mite bet call with the guy stuck in the middle i guess).

on the river whatever, u can pay off and hope he has like JJ TT AQ AJ maybe since hes so short stacked. If the river went bet raise its a pretty easy fold but button doesnt have enough chips for that to happen anyways.

[jt1]

well played

[Oink]

I think you played it fine.

Dont ever consider folding on the flop if that's your question in the thread title. You have a 30% chance of filling up to a boat or quads by the river. Folding would be extremely bad.

[Apanage]

Perfectly played. I don´t play pacific anymore but I strongly suspect you won the pot. The players are just awful.
I remembered an old hand I played a year ago when I saw this one.
Sorry about the format.Where did you get the converter?

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 42533256 *****
$2/$4 Limit Hold'em - *** 04 06 22:16:30 2006
Table Arctic Roll (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: FSTBAL99 ( $7.44 )
Seat 5: Bryanb33 ( $152.2 )
Seat 6: don345 ( $86.4 )
Seat 7: CTrickle ( $301.86 )
Seat 8: mince14 ( $403.47 )
Seat 9: mg2388 ( $78.35 )
FSTBAL99 posts small blind [$1].
Bryanb33 posts big blind [$2].
don345 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CTrickle [ Kh As ]
don345 checks.
CTrickle raises [$4].
mince14 calls [$4].
mg2388 calls [$4].
FSTBAL99 calls [$3].
Bryanb33 calls [$2].
don345 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 10h, Jc ]
FSTBAL99 checks.
Bryanb33 checks.
CTrickle bets [$2].
mince14 raises [$4].
mg2388 calls [$4].
FSTBAL99 calls [$3.44].
Bryanb33 folds.
CTrickle raises [$4].
mince14 raises [$4].
mg2388 calls [$4].
CTrickle calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
CTrickle bets [$4].
mince14 raises [$8].
mg2388 calls [$8].
CTrickle raises [$8].
mince14 raises [$8].
mg2388 calls [$8].
CTrickle calls [$4].
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
CTrickle bets [$4].
mince14 calls [$4].
mg2388 calls [$4].
** Summary **
CTrickle shows [ Kh As ].
mince14 mucks.
mg2388 mucks.
FSTBAL99 mucks.
CTrickle collected [$33.98].
CTrickle collected [$71.96].

[nickabourisk]

Oink: the thread title's purpose was more to get people to read the thread. I wasn't actually going to fold top set.

Apanage: yes, the players at Pacific are horrible (although I didn't win the hand, two people flopped the nuts with AK). There is a link to the converter I used in the original post (right below the game description). The converter can be finnicky at times but I haven't found anything else (I'll probably just write my own converter).