KK- Help me plug a leak- a few BIG losers from yesterdays session.

tedtodd · #1 04-14-2007, 10:47 AM

A few of these made me feel like a donkey, but others are just coolers. How's my line- can anyone help me plug a leak?

Hand 1:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($204.50)
BB ($228.15)
UTG ($194.55)
MP ($112.50)
Button ($40.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24, 1 fold, UTG calls $16.

Flop: ($50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $39, UTG raises to $170.55, Hero calls $131.55.

Turn: ($391.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($391.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $391.10
Villain has pocket T's.

Hand2:
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BB ($194)
Hero ($476.90)
MP ($355.10)
Button ($213.10)
SB ($178.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $7, MP calls $7, 2 folds, BB raises to $26, Hero calls $19, MP folds.

Flop: ($60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $40, Hero raises to $188, BB calls $128 (All-In).

Turn: ($416) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($416) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $416

Results in white below: 
BB has Ah Ad (full house, aces full of sevens).
Hero has Kh Ks (two pair, kings and sevens).
Outcome: BB wins $396. Hero wins $20. 

Hand3:
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BB ($304.25)
UTG ($59.95)
MP ($174.90)
Hero ($205.95)
SB ($255.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, MP calls $8.

Flop: ($23) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $19, MP calls $19.

Turn: ($61) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $51, MP raises to $102, Hero raises to $172, MP calls $43.90 (All-In).

River: ($378.90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $378.90

Results in white below: 
MP has 6s 6h (three of a kind, sixes).
Hero has Kc Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: MP wins $352.80. Hero wins $26.10. 

Hand 4:
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MP ($260.20)
Button ($371.40)
SB ($214.55)
Hero ($455.70)
UTG ($221.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $28, Button calls $18.

Flop: ($57) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $20, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($97) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($97) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $29, Button raises to $58, Hero calls $29.

Final Pot: $213

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kh Kc (two pair, kings and fives).
Button has 4s 5h (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Button wins $213.

effinA · #2 04-14-2007, 10:54 AM

hand 1&2 is just the big V
hand 3: very read dependent...id prolly stak off here(most likely)
hand 4:i dont get it....c/c flop?, then misses the cr on turn?(hopefully thats what u were goin for)...weak blockish bet on river??....dont let prior hands dictate how u play current ones

[Phill] · #3 04-14-2007, 10:59 AM

Well, if you have a leak then we both have a leak because i consider 1-3 pretty standard.

Hand 4 id prefer to lead flop then see his reaction - not too sure what your thinking there is tbh. JQx isnt an amazing flop for KK, but its hardly end of days scenrio either. Id rather be the 20 than call the 20.

tedtodd · #4 04-14-2007, 11:02 AM

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hand 4:i dont get it....c/c flop?, then misses the cr on turn?(hopefully thats what u were goin for)...weak blockish bet on river??....dont let prior hands dictate how u play current ones

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Wow- I had forgotten how ugly this hand was. I was trying a more conservative route. I tend to put people on JJ or QQ here if they're calling that raise PF. I should've paid more attention to my HUD stats here.

Beanos · #5 04-14-2007, 11:06 AM

One and two standard. 3 i think he is very strong, i cant see him playing a draw like this. 4 i would lead the flop, i can only think you checked because of how deep u both were? scared of stacking off to a set?

deaders · #6 04-14-2007, 11:07 AM

All standard and coolers except for 3 which you can get away from against some people.

MTSuper7 · #7 04-14-2007, 11:10 AM

hand 1 - doubtful villain takes this line w/ nuts - if you're not ahead on flop, you have a draw. lots of combo draws out there. Folding in favor of better spot not a bad move though.

hand 2 - not much you can do - this situation is rare and you'll be on the other side often enough not to worry about this specific hand

hand 3 - textbopk Baluga theorem here; definite fold on min-raised turn

hand 4 - play it more aggressively - lead flop, bet turn for sure. as played you have to call river in case he has JQ, KQ, AQ.

Abramovic · #8 04-14-2007, 11:12 AM

1/2 coolers

3 you can get away from a fair bit on the turn.

4 is tough to play, thats a crappy flop - but didnt you have a read on this moran?

[Phill] · #9 04-14-2007, 11:13 AM

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hand 3 - textbopk Baluga theorem here; definite fold on min-raised turn

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Missed that on first viewing.

TwistedEcho · #10 04-14-2007, 11:13 AM

You didn't post any reads or stats on opponents.

Hand 1 - yawn cooler, you know this, why post it?

Hand 2 - I often just 4bet here since if you call the other dude is probably coming along too and im not sure thats so good. If the squeezer hasn't got decent TAG stats i just shove and watch him call with QQ/AK/JJ/TT, if hes a regular and capable of squeezing here light i begin to like calling more. Vs a random i 4bet.

Hand 3 - meh i play same but i don't like it as much as 1 and 2.

Hand 4 - wtffff this is ugly. I raise more preflop - if hes opening 5bb he almost certainly isn't folding so lets try to build a pot. $40 to go looks good.

Flop pot will be $80, i don't mind checking for pot control here on that board since we are two buyins deep, i also don't mind betting. Either is fine.

As played i def lead turn, he bet pretty weak on flop and since you checked he couold have anything. If he raises your 3/4 pot on turn you probably have to fold.

You chose to check again? This just seems horribly weak and seeing monsters. I assume you decided he had QQ/JJ and wanted to get to showdown cheap? I dont really get it.

River is great card for you since you now beat QJ and he shouldn't have a 5, so pot it - that 1/3 potsized bet is horrible. Again if he raises your bet you can fold.