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Old 04-14-2007, 06:27 AM
Olof Olof is offline
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While you're at it, as West mentioned, please explain how the long term effects of slavery and discrimination are controlled for.


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Is there any proof that there are long term effects caused by this? (Honest question.)

Chinese-americans seem to have suffered more from discrimination/cultural disadvantage than white Americans, yet they still manage to on average have higher IQ/SAT-scores, larger proportion of graduates, significantly lower crime rate, and fewer children born out of wedlock.
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Old 04-14-2007, 07:18 AM
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Is there any proof that there are long term effects caused by this? (Honest question.)

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Of course not. But this is what I meant by retreating to the unfalsifiable. Egalitarians cling to "causes" that they themselves declare as incapable of detection as though it were proof. This is akin to religious thinking where the devout tell you to prove that God does NOT exist and then go their merry way. I've often wondered just what the shelf life of this line of thinking is. Suppose in 200 years we still see all sorts of inequality of this kind. Think the slavery angle will fly then? Apparently it's some mystical, psychic branding that never fades.

And of course, we never seem much inclined to examine the condition of sub-Saharan Africa itself as a reference point. The particular backwardness and underdevelopment of that area of the world rather predated Europe's interest in the slave trade.
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:30 AM
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And of course, we never seem much inclined to examine the condition of sub-Saharan Africa itself as a reference point. The particular backwardness and underdevelopment of that area of the world rather predated Europe's interest in the slave trade.


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It's quite sad that the birthplace of H. Sapiens is now running in last place by so many metrics.
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