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Old 04-13-2007, 09:07 PM
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Well, some classics from my session...

I had rebuy clicked and it was updating after this hand... what a break being not full stacked (lol, like I'm considering myself lucky)
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($296)</font>
MP ($396.60)
Button ($516.60)
SB ($569)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($400)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($34) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $28</font>, Hero calls $28.

Turn: ($90) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $56</font>, BB calls $56.

River: ($202) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $196</font>, BB calls $96.

Final Pot: $594

Results in tick-me-pink below: <font color="#FF00FF">
BB has 2h 2c (four of a kind, twos).
Hero has 3d 3c (full house, threes full of twos).
Outcome: BB wins $594. </font>


Hand 2 here is against a regular

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($772.60)
SB ($426)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($423.25)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($972)</font>
MP ($894.40)
CO ($226)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $56</font>, UTG calls $40.

Flop: ($114) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $92</font>, UTG calls $92.

Turn: ($298) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $275.25 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $275.25.

River: ($848.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $848.50

Results in tickle-me-pink below: <font color="#FF00FF">
Hero has Kd Kc (two pair, kings and nines).
UTG has 7d 7c (full house, sevens full of nines).
Outcome: UTG wins $848.50. </font>
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:37 PM
My_Name_Is_Hov My_Name_Is_Hov is offline
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So a while ago prahlad made a post about short handed and hu ethics... i remember he touched on switching seats to gain position on a certain player. Anyway me and MT UR Wallet have been getting really into it the last few days playing lots of big pots very agro. We were like 250bb's deep and our 6-max table got short and it was MT some donk and me. He got up... and switched seats to get position on me. I [censored] lost it. Was my reaction justified?
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:50 PM
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if i were him i'd call too

there's obviously 0 value in shoving at that point and he gets to see his opponents' cards in case he's bluffing

[/ QUOTE ]
Are you serious?
Not shoving the river is beyond terrible.
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:59 PM
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wtttttttttttf- not folding to 4bets is the new not folding to 3bets???

FullTiltPoker Game #2203414978: Table Trek (heads up) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:04:36 ET - 2007/04/13
Seat 1: Nice Shot ($707.50)
Seat 2: pez_vela ($1,107)
pez_vela posts the small blind of $3
Nice Shot posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pez_vela [Kh Kc]
pez_vela raises to $18
Nice Shot raises to $54
pez_vela raises to $156
Nice Shot calls $102
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2c 9h]
Nice Shot checks
pez_vela bets $951, and is all in
Nice Shot calls $551.50, and is all in
pez_vela shows [Kh Kc]
Nice Shot shows [9d Js]
Uncalled bet of $399.50 returned to pez_vela
*** TURN *** [Jd 2c 9h] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2c 9h 8d] [6d]
pez_vela shows a pair of Kings
Nice Shot shows two pair, Jacks and Nines
Nice Shot wins the pot ($1,414.50) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1,415 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jd 2c 9h 8d 6d]
Seat 1: Nice Shot (big blind) showed [9d Js] and won ($1,414.50) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 2: pez_vela (small blind) showed [Kh Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings

FullTiltPoker Game #2203627873: Table Tarata (heads up) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:34:17 ET - 2007/04/13
Seat 1: pez_vela ($1,181.50)
Seat 2: jvills ($2,561.50)
pez_vela posts the small blind of $5
jvills posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pez_vela [As Qc]
pez_vela raises to $30
jvills raises to $90
pez_vela raises to $260
jvills calls $170
*** FLOP *** [Ad 6d 6h]
jvills checks
pez_vela bets $300
jvills raises to $600
pez_vela raises to $921.50, and is all in
jvills calls $321.50
pez_vela shows [As Qc]
jvills shows [Ac 7c]
*** TURN *** [Ad 6d 6h] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 6d 6h Jc] [Ah]
pez_vela shows a full house, Aces full of Sixes
jvills shows a full house, Aces full of Sixes
jvills ties for the pot ($1,181.25) with a full house, Aces full of Sixes
pez_vela ties for the pot ($1,181.25) with a full house, Aces full of Sixes
pez_vela: fdgsdfgdfg
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2,363 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Ad 6d 6h Jc Ah]
Seat 1: pez_vela (small blind) showed [As Qc] and won ($1,181.25) with a full house, Aces full of Sixes
Seat 2: jvills (big blind) showed [Ac 7c] and won ($1,181.25) with a full house, Aces full of Sixes

FullTiltPoker Game #2203587130: Table Tarata (heads up) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:28:34 ET - 2007/04/13
Seat 1: pez_vela ($1,179)
Seat 2: jvills ($2,567.50)
pez_vela posts the small blind of $5
jvills posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pez_vela [Qc 9d]
pez_vela raises to $30
jvills raises to $90
pez_vela raises to $250
jvills calls $160
*** FLOP *** [Ah Td Js]
jvills checks
pez_vela checks
*** TURN *** [Ah Td Js] [Qd]
jvills checks
pez_vela checks
*** RIVER *** [Ah Td Js Qd] [As]
jvills checks
pez_vela checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pez_vela shows [Qc 9d] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
jvills mucks
pez_vela wins the pot ($499.50) with two pair, Aces and Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $500 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Ah Td Js Qd As]
Seat 1: pez_vela (small blind) showed [Qc 9d] and won ($499.50) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 2: jvills (big blind) mucked [9s Jc] - two pair, Aces and Jacks

and just for kicks me getting ZEEBOed...

FullTiltPoker Game #2203539941: Table Trek (heads up) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:22:02 ET - 2007/04/13
Seat 1: Nice Shot ($825.25)
Seat 2: pez_vela ($1,598.50)
Nice Shot posts the small blind of $3
pez_vela posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pez_vela [7c Ad]
Nice Shot raises to $18
pez_vela calls $12
*** FLOP *** [2d 3d 7d]
pez_vela bets $30
Nice Shot raises to $114
pez_vela calls $84
*** TURN *** [2d 3d 7d] [2s]
pez_vela checks
Nice Shot bets $234
pez_vela calls $234
*** RIVER *** [2d 3d 7d 2s] [2h]
pez_vela checks
Nice Shot bets $459.25, and is all in
pez_vela calls $459.25
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nice Shot shows [2c 5c] (four of a kind, Twos)
pez_vela mucks
Nice Shot wins the pot ($1,650) with four of a kind, Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1,650.50 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2d 3d 7d 2s 2h]
Seat 1: Nice Shot (small blind) showed [2c 5c] and won ($1,650) with four of a kind, Twos
Seat 2: pez_vela (big blind) mucked [7c Ad] - a full house, Twos full of Sevens
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:04 PM
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What possible benefit do you get from knowing that your opponent had 64 here?!

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future tilt from opponent just seeing you call
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:07 PM
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WHY DON'T I WANT TO KEEP PLAYING WHEN I'M RUNNING GOOD?

Yesterday, cash session +$1200 in 600 hands, don't feel like playing cash any more. Go deep and then lose lose lose in a bunch of multis, play some sit and goes, run bad, play 90 [censored] sit and goes until close to even on them.

Tonight, 500 hands cash, +$1150, games still good, don't want to play. wtf is wrong with me
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:08 PM
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if i were him i'd call too

there's obviously 0 value in shoving at that point and he gets to see his opponents' cards in case he's bluffing

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow are you serious?
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:11 PM
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yes i think ther eis more EV in the information that your opponent played 64 in that way than in the 0.00000001% chance that after 4-bet misclicking he will can an all in without a king

yes i'm serious

edit: if i was actually in the hand i would probably instinctively shove anyway, but if i thought about it i think calling is better
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:17 PM
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Quads three times in the last two days/1000 hands:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($171)
Button ($368)
SB ($374.10)
BB ($322.80)
Hero ($533.20)
MP ($354)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $32</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($70) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $501.2</font> (fake flush draw!), MP calls $282 (All-In).

Turn: ($893.20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($893.20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $893.20

Results below:
Hero has 7c 7s (four of a kind, sevens).
MP has Kh Ah (two pair, kings and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $893.20.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($473)
Hero ($542.90)
SB ($542.90)
BB ($394.30)
UTG ($512.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $14, SB calls $12, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($56) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $41</font>, SB calls $41, BB folds, MP folds.

Turn: ($138) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $52</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $222</font>, SB calls $170.

River: ($582) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $265.9 (All-In)</font>, SB calls $265.90 (All-In).

Final Pot: $1113.80

Results below:
SB has Tc Ks (two pair, kings and tens).
Hero has 8d 8s (four of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $1113.80.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($442.50)
CO ($345)
Button ($364)
SB ($396)
BB ($168.40)
UTG ($394)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $32</font>, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($66) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($66) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, BB calls $32.

River: ($130) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $105</font>, BB calls $104.40 (All-In).

Final Pot: $339.40

Results below:
BB has Ks Kc (two pair, kings and sevens).
Hero has 7h 7d (four of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $339.39.
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:19 PM
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wtttttttttttf- not folding to 4bets is the new not folding to 3bets???

[/ QUOTE ]

I played with that Nice Shot idiot yesterday and he is seriously my new favourite person ever.
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