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Old 04-12-2007, 04:04 PM
rcmcdee rcmcdee is offline
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Default Hi & Lo Declaration resolution

Newbie here...

How do you resolve the situation where a player declares both ways in hi-lo - wins high - loses low. How is the pot awarded?
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Old 04-12-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: Hi & Lo Declaration resolution

Pretty simple,

Player reveals hand. If he has a qualifying low he is able to win both pots. Other players will then reveal their hands if they can beat either the high or low as per normal showdown protocol.

When there is a qualifying low the pot is always split half to the high, half to the low. If you need to chop between tying highs or lows this can get confusing but if you do it slowly it makes sense.

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Old 04-12-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Hi & Lo Declaration resolution

Typically in a declare game if you declare both then you need to win both. Failure to win both results in not winning anything.

ex. Players A, B and C in a hand. Player A declares hi and lo, B goes lo and C goes Hi. A beats B for the lo but loses to C for the Hi. Player A's hand is dead and B and C split the pot.

If you do it so that a player declaring both is still eligible to win just one side then what would stop you from always declaring both?
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:56 PM
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I understand that A gets nothing. BUT... If B loses to A then why does B get half of the pot?
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:12 PM
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Dan's 2 cents

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overpriced at that

Just kidding. OP was referring to games where you must declare if you are going hi or lo or both as opposed to "cards speak" where you turn over your hand and sort things out. This is most common in home games and I have never seen it played in card rooms this way, but my experience is limited. This adds a whole other dimension to the game.
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:20 PM
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ex. Players A, B and C in a hand. Player A declares hi and lo, B goes lo and C goes Hi. A beats B for the lo but loses to C for the Hi. Player A's hand is dead and B and C split the pot.


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I understand that A gets nothing. BUT... If B loses to A then why does B get half of the pot?

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A's hand is dead if he doesn't win both ways. He is no longer in the pot and B and C are the only remaining players. Since B went lo and won that and C went hi and won that, each gets half the pot.
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Old 04-13-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Hi & Lo Declaration resolution

I guess I don't know what I am talking about, this is why this is a forum and why I usually get flamed out of discusisons. I have been professionally trained to deal hi/low (although it was recently) and because I don't play home games I have never encountered a declaration situation.

This is why all my posts are worth only 2 cents.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:50 AM
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Don't take it personally. Home games usually have lots of variations that many internet only (and even casino only) players have never heard of.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:49 PM
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In the games I have played, you need to win both if declare you are going for both. That's why it is high risk, high reward.

We played a game called Low (or High) Chicago which is a seven card stud format where the best poker hand gets half the pot and the lowest (or highest) spade in the hole gets the other half of the pot. At the end, you grab coins in your hand and drop them where one coin is for the spade, two coins for the poker and three for both (and you needed tow win both).

This caused all sorts of problems with coins sticking or falling on the floor or guys forgetting what one coin meant, etc.

The only reason to declare in this game was... well we couldn't really think of one other than a guy screwing himself if he had the nut spade and a good poker hand. I convinced everybody that we don't need to declare anything. Your hand plays as it lays. You might want to try that.

Think of Omaha Hi/Lo. Nobody declares anything. You just win whatever part of the part you win.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:56 PM
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I understand that A gets nothing. BUT... If B loses to A then why does B get half of the pot?

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As Ottsville said A's hand is no longer in play. Once he failed to win both sides his hand is dead and no longer matters. So you now decide among the remaining players. Who you going to give the lo side to? Can't be C, he went hi. Only player left who went lo is B.
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