NL2: Full House meets aggression on turn

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UTG+1 ($6.08)
MP1 ($1.41)
MP2 ($3)
CO ($2.91)
Button ($1.67)
Hero ($3.04)
BB ($7.17)
UTG ($2.47)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.02.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.08) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.02</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls $0.02, BB folds.

Turn: ($0.12) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.08</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $1.37</font>

Is it a call or does he have the nine?
Whats your opinion on the other streets?

[good_gamble]

Fold p/f, fold flop, as played chk fold turn

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Fold p/f, fold flop, as played chk fold turn

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Your post was a bit shortish...
Isn't 7-1 odds not good enough to call almost anything perflop?
At the flop i have two pair, i think a raise would have been better than a call, but why fold here?
Last but not least, i have FH on the turn, so why not calling his all-in, when i'm almost sure to win the pot?

[kolotoure]

I still fold pf, I need a lot more then 7-1 to call with 7-2 here

Flop call is fine

Turn I don't raise but now that you have and he makes it 1.37 it is an easy fold

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I still fold pf, I need a lot more then 7-1 to call with 7-2 here

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What odds would make it a call in your eyes then?

[kolotoure]

10-1 and I will probably complete. Being OOP and having a bad hand sucks hard

[AKQJ]

People at NL2 only bets the nuts, so yes it's a fold

[Leviathan101]

I fold preflop... 7-2 sucks even if its suited.
I count it as 12-1 odds to call with any two in the SB or BB, cause you will sometimes hit your hand and lose and you will rarely continue if you don't flop a great hand.

Calling the flop is ok.
You could call on the turn, or raise to see where you stand. If you call, you have to evaluate the river. If you raise and he calls or reraises your beat.

note you aren't just beat by a Nine. You're also beat by any pocket pair bigger than 22, and overcards can still suck out on you. You can only improve to a pair of sevens which means you are dead against 88+, 9x, and drawing very slim against 33+, in addition to the fact that any non made hand has at least 6 overcards therefore you will lose sometimes there as well.

Fold.

[good_gamble]

Spacer, sorry for not explaining my post.

1. I fold preflop b/cuz we are out of position for the rest of the hand and although we are getting good odds, they're not so great as to warrant calling wit 72s here. suited Ks, Qs fine or anything connected and suited (85s, J8s etc.)I complete with but 72 suited or unsuited is total trash.

2. I fold flop because i expect a NL$2 player to be betting with some sort of pair here, if he has a deuce you're outkicked and he could easily have a pair &gt; 2s. Furthermore, there aren't any cards that you would like on the turn so while there is a slim chance we are currently ahead, villian will have 6 outs (not to mention every other card is a scarecard pretty much) and we are OOP.

3. When villian pushes turn some of the time you're going to get a split but i expect to see an overpair to the 2s most of the time therefore i fold.

Hope this explains my reasoning OK

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Yes, any of villains possible pocketpair would kill me.
I will adjust my preflop calling odds as well in the blinds.

Do you know any good thread about preflop calling odds or reasons in the blinds? I have Harringtons books here, but in his examples he almost always advices to call when odds are above 5-1 or 6-1(OK, maybe its not an advice but hes not denying it either, is he?)