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Old 04-11-2007, 11:12 PM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - T9s standard?

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this is the range i gave him, it might be too loose/tight, let me know what you guys think:

Hand 0: 54.849% 51.57% 03.27% 62701207 3980272.00 { Th9h }
Hand 1: 45.151% 41.88% 03.27% 50911833 3980272.00 { TT, 88-77, Ac4c, J9s+, T8s-T7s, 87s, JTo, T8o-T7o, 87o }

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I think the offsuit connectors/gappers is too loose.

I'd add 99 and some combo draws or big draws like AJc.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - T9s standard?

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this is the range i gave him, it might be too loose/tight, let me know what you guys think:

Hand 0: 54.849% 51.57% 03.27% 62701207 3980272.00 { Th9h }
Hand 1: 45.151% 41.88% 03.27% 50911833 3980272.00 { TT, 88-77, Ac4c, J9s+, T8s-T7s, 87s, JTo, T8o-T7o, 87o }

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Without reads or stats I don't think JTo or T7o should be in there. Btw, is there a way to include all the AcXc in there cause I see you only have Ac4c.

After seeing this I guess a push isn't as bad as I orginally thought but I still don't like it.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:25 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - T9s standard?

I think shoving flop is terrible because Villain is almost never bluffing. Also, the board is drawy so he is pretty unlikely to fold a hand like JJ or QQ or something if he has that, so we aren't ever getting better hands to fold.

I agree with CATerp that you should check this flop often.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - T9s standard?

Okay I think

folding > shoving > calling

calling makes are hand very transparent and alot of decisions harder on the turn if we DO improve are hand...

bleh I shoved he had JJ (wtf) and held
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - T9s standard?

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i dont mind calling/seeing turn w. position.

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explain, if a straight card hits he'll never pay us off and our 2 pair leaves us in an awkward spot?

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This is true. Its shove or fold, I lean toward shove
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - T9s standard?

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Okay I think

folding > shoving > calling

calling makes are hand very transparent and alot of decisions harder on the turn if we DO improve are hand...

bleh I shoved he had JJ (wtf) and held

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On a drawy board no one is ever folding an overpair, and that's one of the reasons that shoving here is terrible....
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - T9s standard?

I shove preflop, flipping is fun. Plus while wpr says the opponent is never bluffing, i have made people fold in stranger spots when i figured i had 0FE and they still folded, so i pretty much always give 10% change to them folding even when they have one bb left
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