mid set vs a fish 50NL

[morphball]

Bet the turn larger, if he will call $7, he'll call $11, and 70VPIP will call with any piece and any draw. More over, if he's drawing, a larger turn bet may encourage a shove from this type of player. Same for the flop, but just can justify that smaller bet more by seeing if he has a piece of that board.

As played, river fold is fine, no one knows you have a set. I would call, back door flush is in his range for sure, but he will get jiggy with a lot more than that.

[barryc83]

I call bc hes gonna play AK-AT like the nuts also JT.

[Gustav]

If you had bet the flop and turn properly you would practically be all in by now.

[derosnec]

river lead (not blocker) when flush draw completes = a flush like 99% of the time, even with 3 broadways on board making two pair possible

that's been my experience, yours might differ

[yeotaJMU]

am i crazy to think that folding here is terrible? fwiw a backdoor flush is not in villain's range imo, is he calling down with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ?? the ONLY hand i see losing two is KQ, and while that is a possibility its so much more likely he has aces up or worth that im calling here all day

[yeotaJMU]

also i agree that betting the flop and turn properly would make this a much easier decision

[juanepr]

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If you had bet the flop and turn properly you would practically be all in by now.

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Agree! Also, this smells like he back-doored a flush.

[yeotaJMU]

could some of you who put a backdoor flush in villains range explain to me how this is? Hero has J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in his hand, and with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on board he cant really have a pair here if he has two clubs. also, with 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on turn, that rules out K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], thus leaving the only hand again to be K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] as the only hand i can see having a backdoor [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] draw, but KQ beats you anyway. someone explain?

[Sweir]

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could some of you who put a backdoor flush in villains range explain to me how this is? Hero has J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in his hand, and with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on board he cant really have a pair here if he has two clubs. also, with 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on turn, that rules out K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], thus leaving the only hand again to be K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] as the only hand i can see having a backdoor [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] draw, but KQ beats you anyway. someone explain?

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Pretty much my thinking too, KQo is possible too. His range is clearly wider than AA/KQ so its an easy call.

[derosnec]

yeah the flush can be discounted, but the push is worrisome on that board. i just can't see opponent's hand being less than a set of jacks here. usually when flushdraw completes (even a BFD) action is check call or some dumb blocker like $1.

he probably has 53s or KQ, a set is possible too i suppose. he's open pushing the river. at the micros. on a coordinated board. not something that happens often.