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04-06-2007, 03:55 PM
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Comment on Tough Hold\'em Games
Received my copy today. Very excited to digest it. One observation:
The starting hands chart on P. 12 bears striking similarity to Abdul Jalib's 1999 chart in "Hold'em Preflop Strategy According to Abdul" here: http://web.archive.org/web/200501010...lop-abdul.html 
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04-06-2007, 04:08 PM
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Re: Comment on Tough Hold\'em Games
Another comment.
Roughly 48 of the first 68 pages are PokerTracker chart results for various hands by position for three representative winning players. First time I have ever seen this stuff in a book. Will take some time to digest, although they draw conclusions from this raw data in recommending their preflop hand ranges.
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04-06-2007, 08:05 PM
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Re: Comment on Tough Hold\'em Games
[ QUOTE ]
Received my copy today. Very excited to digest it. One observation: The starting hands chart on P. 12 bears striking similarity to Abdul Jalib's 1999 chart in "Hold'em Preflop Strategy According to Abdul" here: http://web.archive.org/web/200501010...lop-abdul.html [/ QUOTE ] abdul's starting ranges were based a lot on turbo texas holdem sims (I am assuming this but think I am correct). He was one of the original "testers" for that product. I think the guy is awesome and since our starting hands are based on sims and emperical data I consider it corroboration of our findings that they are similar.
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04-06-2007, 08:40 PM
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Re: Comment on Tough Hold\'em Games
Excellent post-flop breakdown by betting line. Never seen anything like it in the literature. Conceptualizing the flop and turn betting rounds as a sequence is genius, and the guidelines for how to choose which line based on the opponent and the strength of your hand/draw are spot on.
Well done.
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04-06-2007, 10:03 PM
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Re: Comment on Tough Hold\'em Games
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IS this book out at Borders or Barnes yet? [/ QUOTE ] Don't think so. See Mason's thread. I pre-ordered mine. Came in the mail today. Bookstores should have them in about a week or so.
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04-06-2007, 10:19 PM
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Re: Comment on Tough Hold\'em Games
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Received my copy today. Very excited to digest it. One observation: The starting hands chart on P. 12 bears striking similarity to Abdul Jalib's 1999 chart in "Hold'em Preflop Strategy According to Abdul" here: http://web.archive.org/web/200501010...lop-abdul.html [/ QUOTE ] abdul's starting ranges were based a lot on turbo texas holdem sims (I am assuming this but think I am correct). He was one of the original "testers" for that product. I think the guy is awesome and since our starting hands are based on sims and emperical data I consider it corroboration of our findings that they are similar. [/ QUOTE ] Note these hand ranges are a far cry from HPFAP's groupings.
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04-06-2007, 11:46 PM
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Re: Comment on Tough Hold\'em Games
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DO you think this book is better then HFAPL [/ QUOTE ] For today's tough and 6max internet games? Clearly. HPFAP was written before the boom. Before computer simulations. Before PokerTracker. Before PokerStove. It was a slightly different game back then.
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04-06-2007, 11:52 PM
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Re: Comment on Tough Hold\'em Games
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] DO you think this book is better then HFAPL [/ QUOTE ] For today's tough and 6max internet games? Clearly. HPFAP was written before the boom. Before computer simulations. Before PokerTracker. Before PokerStove. It was a slightly different game back then. [/ QUOTE ] Are you trying to learn Limit Holdem because most of your post are No Limit.
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