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#1
04-06-2007, 08:40 PM
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Villain on a draw enough to call with UI overs?
4 tablin' no read, I generally don't have a read
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls. Flop: (8.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls. Turn: (6.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (8.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero ??????? 
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#4
04-06-2007, 08:45 PM
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Re: Villain on a draw enough to call with UI overs?
fold river
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#5
04-06-2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: Villain on a draw enough to call with UI overs?
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What Draw?? He has a Ten or an Overpair very often. You can Fold now. [/ QUOTE ] Heart draw. over 9BB at time of decision
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#6
04-06-2007, 09:54 PM
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Re: Villain on a draw enough to call with UI overs?
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[ QUOTE ] What Draw?? He has a Ten or an Overpair very often. You can Fold now. [/ QUOTE ] Heart draw. over 9BB at time of decision [/ QUOTE ] Unless villain is a TAG (good reason to get reads) you will find that usually, when they raise the flop on a draw for a free card, they have a tendency to take the free card when unimproved.
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#7
04-06-2007, 09:59 PM
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Re: Villain on a draw enough to call with UI overs?
IMHO a good player will not take a free card here.* That said I don't know what to do on the river.
* - If the turn doesn't give Ax a wheel draw. I just saw that and it makes betting much less appealing.
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#8
04-06-2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: Villain on a draw enough to call with UI overs?
this situation comes up a lot for me on both ends.
what is the standard line then?
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#9
04-07-2007, 12:04 AM
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Re: Villain on a draw enough to call with UI overs?
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IMHO a good player will not take a free card here.* That said I don't know what to do on the river. * - If the turn doesn't give Ax a wheel draw. I just saw that and it makes betting much less appealing. [/ QUOTE ] I'm confused. If we're Villain and putting Hero on Ax for a wheel draw, wouldn't we be more inclined to bet to not let us have a free card?
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#10
04-09-2007, 03:33 PM
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Re: Villain on a draw enough to call with UI overs?
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I'm confused. If we're Villain and putting Hero on Ax for a wheel draw, wouldn't we be more inclined to bet to not let us have a free card? [/ QUOTE ] I am pretty sure he is talking about the specific case where the villian has the flush draw, not a made hand. In that case, betting to fold out Ax is less likely to succeed because Ax has picked up a wheel draw.
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