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04-06-2007, 03:13 PM
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Interesting live SNG hand facing BTN open limp from good player
Home game at a lawyer's. Villain's a top 100 donkament player online. Definitely better at MTT's but certainly can hold his own at SNG's. He is more aggressive than most preflop and somewhat capable of big moves. Hero is pretty much a SNG specialist, pretty run of the mill TAG, but not overbearingly aggressive(maybe like curtains?). Hero taught villain, so obviously both are well acquainted with each other's styles. Perhaps contrary to his appearance here, villain understands ICM and SNG's as a whole pretty well.
100/200 no ante. 15 minutes left in this level. 5 left, 3 spots pay 50/30/20. BB(3500) is the nit of nits. No shorties. Hero(4000) is SB, Villain(2000) has button. Folded to villain who open limps his button. Hero has A7o and is very confused. Hero completes. BB checks as he will unless he has JJ+/AK. POT 600 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Hero and BB check in rhythm, villain pauses for a sec and then checks behind. Turn 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hero studies and leads for 600. BB folds of course. Villain pauses for a sec and calls. POT (1800) RIVER 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Hero pauses for a sec and gently checks. How's Hero's line, particularly the river check? What do you put villain on? 
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#2
04-06-2007, 03:22 PM
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Re: Interesting live SNG hand facing BTN open limp from good player
lead flop AINEC
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04-06-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: Interesting live SNG hand facing BTN open limp from good player
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lead flop AINEC [/ QUOTE ] Dude. I appreciate the response but I'm looking for a little more than the standard lead your flopped trips line. I'm really interested in button's range and hero's river check. AINEC? Allin...?
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04-06-2007, 03:32 PM
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Re: Interesting live SNG hand facing BTN open limp from good player
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[ QUOTE ] lead flop AINEC [/ QUOTE ] Dude. I appreciate the response but I'm looking for a little more than the standard lead your flopped trips line. I'm really interested in button's range and hero's river check. AINEC? Allin...? [/ QUOTE ] well BTN made what appears to be a really donk play, so it's really hard to tell. If you hadn't told me he is a good MTTer, I would say he has any two cards that he felt like playing. As for flop, there is a flush draw, and there is no reason to think that either villain will bet (on a paired board no less) so flop lead is super-easy. after villains turn call he could really have any pair or any draw.
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#5
04-06-2007, 03:36 PM
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Re: Interesting live SNG hand facing BTN open limp from good player
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] lead flop AINEC [/ QUOTE ] Dude. I appreciate the response but I'm looking for a little more than the standard lead your flopped trips line. I'm really interested in button's range and hero's river check. AINEC? Allin...? [/ QUOTE ] well BTN made what appears to be a really donk play, so it's really hard to tell. If you hadn't told me he is a good MTTer, I would say he has any two cards that he felt like playing. As for flop, there is a flush draw, and there is no reason to think that either villain will bet (on a paired board no less) so flop lead is super-easy. after villains turn call he could really have any pair or any draw. [/ QUOTE ] WTF are you serious? Leading this flop is sososososo bad and too be honest I'm shocked the button didn't bet. The turn and river are very interesting IMO but before I answer I need to know if you had the Ad.
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#6
04-06-2007, 03:39 PM
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Re: Interesting live SNG hand facing BTN open limp from good player
eagles,
are you looking to CR flop if it gets bet?
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#7
04-06-2007, 03:50 PM
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Re: Interesting live SNG hand facing BTN open limp from good player
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WTF are you serious? Leading this flop is sososososo bad and too be honest I'm shocked the button didn't bet. The turn and river are very interesting IMO but before I answer I need to know if you had the Ad. [/ QUOTE ] WTF are you serious? How is leading this flop sososososo bad? Yes I get the check, but leading is not sososososo bad.
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#9
04-06-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: Interesting live SNG hand facing BTN open limp from good player
River check might be OK if villain is capable of making a big moves as said, but I'd bet the river for value.
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#10
04-06-2007, 05:19 PM
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Re: Interesting live SNG hand facing BTN open limp from good player
I think we can narrow button's range down to two types of hands... a monster (AA, KK, etc.) or two big cards (KJ, QT, A9, etc.).
I definitely like the flop check. If he limped a monster, he should be betting, or at least looking to get it all in by the river. If he has two broadway cards, he's probably going to fold to a bet, unless he tries to make a move, so leading the flop is no good. Once he checks behind on the flop, of course betting the turn is good. When he calls, I'm thinking the most likely hand is a big pair. He could have a draw like KdJd also. I would shove the river. You could argue for a check behind hoping he tries to bluff a missed draw, but I don't think he's as likely to have a draw, and even if he does, he may not try to bluff. Looking at that board, he may decide he's not getting called if he bets his big pair, so he may check behind. If he does have any bigger pair, he's calling your shove. Without knowing his cards, I'm thinking villain really donked this hand up. I don't see why he doesn't just shove, especially with a super nit in the BB. I hope that all makes sense [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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