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Old 04-03-2007, 08:13 PM
WarDekar WarDekar is offline
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Default Re: Squeeze failed. Go and Go now?

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were i inclined to do something like this i think stack sizes are good just to shove preflop.

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How are stack sizes even remotely close to being good for a preflop shove? Shoving preflop here is awful, shoving here on the flop is automatic.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: Squeeze failed. Go and Go now?

Well it's a bluff right. Shove is 3.5x pot. You're basically commiting to shove any flop. I dunno, I'm not a huge fan of the squeeze at the lower stakes I play but that's what I would do
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:42 PM
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shove flop most every time and hope
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:10 PM
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I would probably make it 14-15k PF. And yeah, when you flop a pair, this is a turbo shove. It's not "Oh no, I have Q8 and the flop is AK3." You have a hand that can improve if you're beaten, and you may be ahead.
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Old 04-05-2007, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: Squeeze failed. Go and Go now?

The ones suggesting to raise more pf: which hands do you see folding to the larger raise and calling my smallish pseudo-superstrong one?


On a sidenote I did push the flop, fwiw.
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Old 04-06-2007, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: Squeeze failed. Go and Go now?

OMG SHOVE IT NOOOOW!!!!
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Old 04-06-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: Squeeze failed. Go and Go now?

by the way its not about you having a hand its them having to call against the odds with their hand

if you gonna raise it to 15k they gonna have to call 12k for a 22k pot
putting in 1/3th of their stack
they cant call that with a marginal hand its not EV+
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:20 AM
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fwiw?
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:21 AM
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fwiw?

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for what it's worth

oh and shove
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