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Old 04-03-2007, 08:16 PM
valdosta valdosta is offline
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Default Re: Barney Frank to Seek Poker \"carveout\"

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Poker isn't going to be accepted by your typical person anyways. You can try to hide behind "skill", but sorry that's not really accurate. Their are plenty of sports bettors who are skilled. If you go to a typical place and tell people that poker is not gambling and that sports betting is people will laugh you right out. Rightfully so, a lot of people have lost a lot of money playing poker. Be as optimistic as you want but poker won't get a carve out and rightfully so.

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How much have you lost, fish?

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Not to much. I play poker here and there for fun. I have followed all of the UIGEA stuff though because it has a effect on myself not dealing with poker. I am just a realist, some people don't like that but oh well. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:18 PM
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Realistically all of the public poker room actions (pulling out of the US market), kind of say otherwise.

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So this is why I can't find a game.

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How many publically owned places do you play at now? Privately owned companies are a different story. You can't be a public company and break the law like the poker rooms were doing so they pulled out. They had no choice.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:59 PM
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I am just a realist, some people don't like that but oh well.

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Then you should understand that sports betting in the US will always be associated with point shaving, match fixing, and scandal.

The beautiful and fair game of poker doesn't need that type of burden. It can only hinder.

I wish you luck legalizing your sports betting, but aside from the uncertain legality, has nothing in common with poker.

I'm proud of the poker industry, I can't say that about sports betting.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: Barney Frank to Seek Poker \"carveout\"

If Frank's bill will repeal the UIGEA, what is the point of including a poker carve out in it? Unless that carve out is a carve out from the Wire Act, which would be really cool.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Barney Frank to Seek Poker \"carveout\"

Poker is gambling, it's already hindered. As for fixed games and such, [censored] happens. Whether you can bet sports online legally or not there is this big place called Las Vegas (among others) where people can bet sports. My point is don't pretend like poker isn't gambling BECAUSE IT IS. In fact I remember someone saying poker is the crack/cocaine of online gambling. Addictive as hell, I would have to agree with that. I think people should be able to do what they want with their own money so I am against any law like the UIGEA but poker is most definantely gambling.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:15 PM
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In fact I remember someone saying poker is the crack/cocaine of online gambling. Addictive as hell, I would have to agree with that.

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O RLY? How many professional crack users do you know?
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:33 PM
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Screw a carveout for poker. It should all be legal. People that are willing to live with a carveout while leaving sports betting and such in the dust suck.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:43 PM
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I see alot of sports bettors are here crying on the forum instead of forming a special interest group as the poker players have done.

You guys know that sports bettors could never get a carveout in a million years and you're jealous.

Bring it to TheRx where they give a damn.

This is a poker forum.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:55 PM
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I see alot of sports bettors are here crying on the forum instead of forming a special interest group as the poker players have done.

You guys know that sports bettors could never get a carveout in a million years and you're jealous.

Bring it to TheRx where they give a damn.

This is a poker forum.

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So basically you only care about freedom to do the things you're interested in, and everyone else can go to hell. That's not freedom, baby.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:03 PM
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I see alot of sports bettors are here crying on the forum instead of forming a special interest group as the poker players have done.

You guys know that sports bettors could never get a carveout in a million years and you're jealous.

Bring it to TheRx where they give a damn.

This is a poker forum.

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So basically you only care about freedom to do the things you're interested in, and everyone else can go to hell. That's not freedom, baby.

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Hey, I think it should be legal to smoke pot and the laws should be changed but that doesn't mean I also think it should be legal to commit murder. Apples and Oranges.

It's right to discriminate in certain situations.
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