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Ok, I think this is a good example of WA/WB done correctly. Correct me if I'm wrong...
Villain is unknown. After the second nine and the donk on the turn, I figure he either has a Q and I'm way ahead, or a 9 and I'm way behind. So if he has a Q, let him bet for me, but if he's got a 9 I can save some money. Ultimate Bet Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.25./$0.5 7 players Converter Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.4SB, 4 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB calls, UTG folds. Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.7BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.7BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: 10.7BB |
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You're misapplying this concept. I raise the turn.
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You're misapplying this concept. I raise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] What do you put villain on here? |
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You're misapplying this concept. I raise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I mean he's obviously representing a 9 here. If he doesn't have it, then great let him keep pretending he does. I don't want to scare him off. If he does, lets try to save as much money as we can but still see it. Isn't this WA/WB? |
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Posting blind (totally blind, based exclusively on your subject): probably not WA/WB.
After reading: nope, not even close. Too many outs for your opponent, not enough for you, not close to 50/50 ahead/behind, yada yada. Raise the turn, call down if 3bet. |
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Just because he donked the turn does not mean he has a nine here. He could just be saying "Show me if you can beat top pair". That is the most likely answer out of all of them.
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Posting blind (totally blind, based exclusively on your subject): probably not WA/WB. After reading: nope, not even close. Too many outs for your opponent, not enough for you, not close to 50/50 ahead/behind, yada yada. Raise the turn, call down if 3bet. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty much you have 2 outs if behind, and he has 2 outs if behind so I disagree with that part. If he has a Q he needs another one. If he has a 9 you need a K. I just agree that it's not 50/50 so we should raise somewhere. His range is overwhelmingly Qx. |
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I mean he's obviously representing a 9 here. [/ QUOTE ] o rly? Why would he donk with a 9? He'd c/r. This is a Q, uh, always, and by just calling on the turn you're making two mistakes: 1. you're giving him a chance to draw cheaply to his 5 outs; and 2. if a scary card that doesn't help him falls on the river, he might not bet again. |
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Pretty much you have 2 outs if behind, and he has 2 outs if behind so I disagree with that part. If he has a Q he needs another one. If he has a 9 you need a K. [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm. Yeah. Wasn't really considering the paired board. That said, AQ is a portion of his range, just not a big enough one to give him a lot more outs. |
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I'm guessing that all you turn raisers fold to a 3-bet?
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