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Old 04-02-2007, 06:48 AM
whizzle whizzle is offline
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Default NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

Villian was 55/40/0.6 the usual nl25 donk.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $22.75
UTG+1: $10.45
Hero: $30
Button: $19
SB: $7.81
BB: $5.35

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($13.25, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $18.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero #$*(@?????</font>

Is a call of this push standard here? i'm really not that far ahead of the FD here, and he could easily have a set.

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Old 04-02-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

What do you mean "push"? SB has $3 left... I'm confused, you're not thinking of folding I hope?

edit: Oh, sorry misread. Yes, call.
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Old 04-02-2007, 06:53 AM
Vandelay1959 Vandelay1959 is offline
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Default Re: NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

I instacall here, probably smth like AT or KT afraid of the flush
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Old 04-02-2007, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

Easy call
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Old 04-02-2007, 06:58 AM
whizzle whizzle is offline
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Default Re: NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

why easy call? the push really confused me. i don't think peeps do that with KT or AT... most likely FDright?
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:00 AM
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Default Re: NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

Should a villain bet into a 3 better preflop with TP only? and hoping to bump AK out?

This play is only profitable with made trips or the NFD...
Don't mind folding here..

@ Gustav

There 3 players in the pot after the flop...
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

@ loc0loc0 discount the 3th player cuz he has only 3 bucks left.

I agree that this is only profitable with a set or FD with overcards. But villian has a VPIP: 55 and PFR: 40.

His range is much wider than just a set and the NFD right?
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

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why easy call? the push really confused me. i don't think rational peeps do that with KT or AT... most likely FDright?

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I think pushing nearly any hand here is pretty bad, we know he's bad so take his monies.

if the unsuited card wasnt the top card on the flop then a small pair + fd could do this rationaly, but as is I cant think of a hand that isnt either wasting its strength or comitting to much on a bluff.
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

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Very easy call

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Old 04-02-2007, 07:08 AM
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Default Re: NL25: QQ facing a donk allin bet

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@ loc0loc0 discount the 3th player cuz he has only 3 bucks left.

I agree that this is only profitable with a set or FD with overcards. But villian has a VPIP: 55 and PFR: 40.

His range is much wider than just a set and the NFD right?

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PPL with stats like that are not complete morons (IQ below 90 [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]). You think of calling because he is so loose and think he could have anything. I only call when i have a note on a player like "TPTK is the nuts" or something i will call.

Don't forgot with TPTK he is behind of your range and assuming he has a little understanding of poker theorem he knows you holding an overpair and hoping you to call.

***EDIT
I prolly call here to, but i'm planting myself in villains head for once.
I pay off to much villains with the thought's givin above.
"Oh, he is a donk. I call."
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