Another QQ vs LAA

RabidTortuga · #1 04-01-2007, 11:52 AM

SB is 29/19 with an 11.50 AF after 120 hands.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
7 folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (11BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 13BB

bozlax · #2 04-01-2007, 12:04 PM

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SB is 29/19 with an 11.50 AF after 120 hands.

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What's he been showing down?

RabidTortuga · #3 04-01-2007, 12:40 PM

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What's he been showing down?

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Only hand he's shown at this table prior to this was K8o in the SB. Previous showdowns indicate mostly solid hands (AJ, 55, 97s, QTs), but without regard to position.

psy · #4 04-01-2007, 12:47 PM

Given reads, and assuming SB hasn't been showing down consistent winning hands, this looks good.

TJO · #5 04-01-2007, 12:53 PM

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What's he been showing down?

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Only hand he's shown at this table prior to this was K8o in the SB. Previous showdowns indicate mostly solid hands (AJ, 55, 97s, QTs), but without regard to position.

[/ QUOTE ]How many of these hands did he win? Does he know how and when to fold?

If he has went to SD with many second best hands then you played this fine. Otherwise you should call down from c/r.

RabidTortuga · #6 04-01-2007, 12:58 PM

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What's he been showing down?

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Only hand he's shown at this table prior to this was K8o in the SB. Previous showdowns indicate mostly solid hands (AJ, 55, 97s, QTs), but without regard to position.

[/ QUOTE ]How many of these hands did he win? Does he know how and when to fold?

If he has went to SD with many second best hands then you played this fine. Otherwise you should call down from c/r.

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He's 50% at SD. He's tracking at 5BB/100, but most of that is from getting folds out of people on the turn and river.

Point Blank · #7 04-01-2007, 07:48 PM

you can't really say much about these stats over a 120 hands ... these stats are easily attained by many

at this point all you know is he has some card selection - and has been aggressive when playing (also note: the high AF is also an indication that he folds a lot as well)

because you have no real read on villain here - I think a call down from the turn check raise is in order (due to the nature of his AF ... he can easily fold to your 3bet or cap you putting you into a bad situation, because you're unlikely to fold and putting in that many bets against a bet/fold type of player probably isn't the best idea)

Perhaps after you have some real reads on this guy (what types of hands he'll check raise you with - and what kind of hands he is will call down with) we can punishment him, but lets wait untill we do

Grease · #8 04-01-2007, 08:32 PM

I really don't like the turn 3-bet. I like a call, and here's why:

He may fold hands that we beat, but would have bet the river with

He will 4-bet and lead all river with hands that crush us

It stops him from bluffing, if he is doing so

I really don't like it, because it forces you to call the river since the pot is now really bloated.

kaby · #9 04-01-2007, 08:49 PM

I call down after the checkraise, this seems a lot like spew to be honest. I'm not even sure about calling the turn cap after your 3-bet, what the hell is he doing this with that you beat? You get 2:13 (correct, right? - I think he bets river here 100%) so you have to be good around 15% of the time ... bit less because you have outs when he made two pair but still, I think it's close between a calldown and a fold then. Ofcourse when he's so agressive that he plays his 77 or whatever like this when he puts you on AK it's all good ;p