Definition of a Slow Roll - Page 3

Brad1970 · #21 03-31-2007, 08:22 PM

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You caught the guy bluffing. Yes, you do get to require that the cards be shown in turn if you wish, but clearly the guy was embarrassed and just wanted you to flip over a winner so he could muck. Dragging it out didn't really gain you much information (he told you he had a king) so all you learned was the kicker. And in return, he's now annoyed, quickly leaves, and the table is unhappy things were delayed and they lost a fish.

It is FAR more important to keep the fish happy and at the table than to learn he had an 8 kicker. Unless the guy has been a douche or there's some REALLY good reason you want to see exactly what he had, let it go. It'll work out better in the long run.

I just happen to have an example from last night of a real slow roll...

A youngin goes all-in preflop with JJ for about $350 (he straddled, it was raised to $30, youngin reraised to like $100, other guy pushed, called). The other guy said "ace king" but didn't turn over the cards. Flop comes out AAQ. Jack on the turn. Blank river. JJ has been sitting face up since the initial bet and has to think JJJAA is good. Pause pause pause. Finally the other guy turns over QQ and giggles. Ultra-dickish slowroll after lying about what he had. That's the definition of a slow roll.

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Dude with the QQ is just asking for an ass whuppin' doing that sh*t.

bav · #22 03-31-2007, 08:29 PM

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...The other guy said "ace king" but didn't turn over the cards. Flop comes out AAQ. Jack on the turn. Blank river. JJ has been sitting face up since the initial bet and has to think JJJAA is good. Pause pause pause. Finally the other guy turns over QQ and giggles. Ultra-dickish slowroll after lying about what he had. That's the definition of a slow roll.

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Dude with the QQ is just asking for an ass whuppin' doing that sh*t.

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Yes. But THIS is a real slowroll. Compare what other folks are calling "slowroll" and it's not even in the same ballpark. Asking for cards to be exposed in the correct rules-determined order is not slowrolling. It can be pretty impolite if you are holding a monster and insist on it, but it needs a different name and belongs in a different sorta category.

UbinTook · #23 03-31-2007, 08:29 PM

In 15 years THIS is the worst slow roll i have ever seen...
20/40 at CAZ
Folded around to small blind who says to the BB " Chop?"
BB looks at his cards and says " not this time Ive been running so bad i have to play these" or something to that effect, and raises.
SB re-raises, war ensues until the BB is allin for a little under 500.
Flop comes JJQ and BB slams down his pockets queens face up and stands triumphantly hollering about "FINALLY..."
SB waits until the turn X and river X are dealt, and then turns over...you guessed it JJ.
BB literally almost fainted and then cruised towards the front door screaming about "This is SUCH BS, and MFRs' etc etc"

Brad1970 · #24 03-31-2007, 08:33 PM

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In 15 years THIS is the worst slow roll i have ever seen...
20/40 at CAZ
Folded around to small blind who says to the BB " Chop?"
BB looks at his cards and says " not this time Ive been running so bad i have to play these" or something to that effect, and raises.
SB re-raises, war ensues until the BB is allin for a little under 500.
Flop comes JJQ and BB slams down his pockets queens face up and stands triumphantly hollering about "FINALLY..."
SB waits until the turn X and river X are dealt, and then turns over...you guessed it JJ.
BB literally almost fainted and then cruised towards the front door screaming about "This is SUCH BS, and MFRs' etc etc"

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That's not really a slowroll.

JJNJustin · #25 04-01-2007, 01:35 AM

I have a question along these lines and I didnt really want to start a whole new thread about it.

There is this guy @ MCC casino in Detroit who has been playing various games and I have played with him off and on. He does various things during the game that arent really illegal but are very bad etiquette.

1. He slow rolls constantly. When playing O8B, he rolls a bad low before he rolls the nut high, or vice versa.

2. I have KKK, he has straight, board no pair. I call on the end and he berates me for making a bad call.

3. This is the thing that bothers me most. He mumbles to himself between hands using multiple curse words and obscenities. The thing that bothers me is that he says something "C*cksucker, *sshole, etc," and I thought he was talking to me, since we had just played a hand. I say, politely, "Sir, are you talking to me?" to which he says, "No I'm talking to myself mind our own business."

Is this type of self-mumbling in an audible fashion a way to swear at your opponents, your protect yourself from being removed using the excuse "I was talking to myself."

Do you know anyone who exhibits this behavior?

-J

kcmoore · #26 04-01-2007, 01:51 AM

doesnt sound like a slowroll to me either. there is no requirement that the SB turn his cards over just because BB did. yes the sb had quads, but there was a possibility of the 4th Q appearing on the board to help the BB.

sounds moke like the BB was being a dick by not being consistent with his chops. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] he got burnt by the cards on went on a monkey tilt. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] He should have f'ing chopped.

TheStation · #27 04-01-2007, 02:02 AM

I think you should have shown him only the ace (not the queen) and told him to muck then get pushed the pot and muck your hand so he doesnt see the queen - give him the option to show the other card or fold, the reason I say this is that the ace might torture him a little bit on the "WTF did he call with..." line... as he wont ever know about the queen....

mikech · #28 04-01-2007, 02:09 AM

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I ... definitely dont want to come off as nitty so Im willing to show my hands in these spots if that is standard etiquette.

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yes, standard procedure after someone has declared their hand is to simply show your winner. don't be like the douche in this following story:

bellagio 10-20nl game a few nights ago, heads-up pot, flop is 9-high, player A checks, player B bets, player A calls. turn is a Q, same action, check, bet, call. river a rag, player A leads out, gets called, so he declares his hand, "i have a 9."

player B asks, "9-what?"

A turns over his hand, 9To or 98o.

B flips his cards over, 9Q for top two pair.

Dynasty · #29 04-01-2007, 04:42 AM

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Folded around to small blind who says to the BB " Chop?"
BB looks at his cards and says " not this time Ive been running so bad i have to play these" or something to that effect, and raises.
SB waits until the turn X and river X are dealt, and then turns over...you guessed it JJ.

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That's not really a slowroll.

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1. I agree it's not a slowroll.

2. Big blind is worthy of a slowroll after his comments (in bold).

effang · #30 04-04-2007, 06:23 PM

if you call someone, you get to see their cards.

i really don't think it is that big of a huge deal. maybe because i'm an "internet" player, but I would like to see any/all hands that go to showdown.

what is ever more annoying than these "supposedly" slow rolls are people that call river, show first, and we never see what villain has...

i ask "don't you want to see what he was playing?"

"nope..."

great, really,