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Old 03-31-2007, 06:20 PM
Kibby Kibby is offline
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Default 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

1st hand. I'm right, right?


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Preflop: Hero is in CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t80</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t80, Hero calls t80, Button calls t80, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t60

Flop: (t410) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets t200</font>, MP3 calls t200, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1420 (All-in)</font>
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

I don't like it, as you've extracted no information about the strength of the original raiser's holdings, and are putting all your chips in. I mean, you're not even beating overcards that have a spade. This can't be good.
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

Why did you not raise this pf? I agree you have no information because you flat called with your high pair, and JJ plays dismally against 4 opponents.

As played, I guess you either fold or push... I'd normally push this flop, but I would have had raised preflop so I have a better idea of what I'm pushing against. There are two more players who may have hit a flush with their 6Ts or whatever... I think I actually fold this.
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

I think every decision in this hand is incredibly standard.
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

I don't think so. MP1's bet could be a continuation bet with AK, AQ, but most of the time he has a big pair, trips or he hit the flush. There's too many hands he's beating you with.
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

With 4 left to act?
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

So a raise pf is not a good idea?
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

Since it's already been opened?
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Old 03-31-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

if MP1 is a loser, yes.

if not, I raise the flop and fold to aggression.
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Old 03-31-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: 16s: JJ over with 3 flush on flop

how about folding the flop?

edit: completely misread HH
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