why do ppl raise -EV hands pf?? it doesnt make mathematical sense ....

[Y SAVE, NIT??]

i think you guys do not realize how raising those hands doesnt let you stack AA KK QQ because you do not get set odds when they reraise 12x

maybe raise 2x?? you still dont get odds though unless you are 150x maybe 200x deep ??

how do i post graph

[futuredoc85]

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i think you guys do not realize how raising those hands doesnt let you stack AA KK QQ because you do not get set odds when they reraise 12x

maybe raise 2x?? you still dont get odds though unless you are 150x maybe 200x deep ??

how do i post graph

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google pokergrapher, also there is more to poker than set odds.

[CalledDownLight]

Whos gimmick is this. I'm withholding comment until I see a PT database.

[Fonkey123]

Over/under 10k hands on database if true?

[jack frost]

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I make 6.5BB/100 in the long run on on 200NL i see flops about 10% raise AA KK QQ JJ AK AKs AQs

at poker tracker i see that AJs A10s KQs 1010 99 88 and 77 are nice profitable hands.Maybe i should raise with them 2x or 3x too?

The main problem i see is that if i raise 4x i will end up heads up vs stronger hands instead of 3 4 limpers with weak ace and board A95 and i have 99. Plus its always easier to make 8x BB on the limped pot once you hit the set instead of
4x8 in the raised pot when you hit the set. Or if i raise 88 4x AA KK QQ reraises to 12x and i cant call but if i wouldve limped 88 and later on he raises 4x with AA KK QQ in the long run i think its profitable play to hit a set and stack AA KK or QQ.

what do you think about raising if you have position on opponents with KJs K10s QJs Q10s JQs J10s? those are nice drawing hands and im thinking about raising them too if i have position on opponents.

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I find it very hard to believe that he is making 6.5bb/100 @ 200 nl and is asking these questions.

[jack frost]

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maybe raise 2x?? you still dont get odds though unless you are 150x maybe 200x deep ??

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how do you figure that if you raise 2x the bb your not getting set odds unless your over 150 bb

[NL__Fool]

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how do you figure that if you raise 2x the bb your not getting set odds unless your over 150 bb

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He's not saying that, he's saying if he raises a hand like 99 to 4x the BB preflop and AA KK or QQ 3 bets him Preflop to $14-$16 which would be a standard amount to 3 bet he will not have the implied odds to call the raise and try and hit his set because there wont be enough imlied odds to make the call.

If he limped 99 preflop and AA KK or QQ raised preflop to 4x the BB +1 for his limp he would have the implied odds to try and hit his set because he only needs to call about $4 more preflop to get the other guys stack.

Nice gimick account

[checkmate36]

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What are your stats? 10/3?


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LOL no those were my stats up until a few days ago.

OP is just having fun with his new 2p2 account.

[D.L.M.]

who is op???? no one in thsi forum had that wintreate

nm no one who isnt god has that winrate

[GiantBuddha]

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