88 - probably just a math problem.

[Apanage]

I fold preflop without thinking twice.
After an almost perfect flop you still have hard decisions to make on every street.
As played I would probably donk turn and not feel too great about it.

[DrazzicEhv]

I shall raise the flop.. the preflop raiser can also just make a c-bet without having a hand. I think just calling is bad play because you can't even know what is he holding. Were you waiting for an extra 8 to bust him? I don't think you had the odds for it so don't!

[ILOVEPOKER929]

Preflop is close between calling and folding.

Flop is close betwen check/calling and check/raising

Turn is close between donk/folding, check/calling and check/folding

River is not close IMO. Looks like a clear fold vs a tag in that spot.

[jstill]

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I'd never fold river as played.

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this surprised me for sure. If the river were HU i can see definitely but here i duno how many 30/20s bet a worse hand into two here. Is it really 10% of the time hes betting the river on this board after this action?

i hate folding when i have just ck called or somewhat underplayed my hand perhaps ( i prefer ck call on the flop here actually) but this spot doesnt seem like one I have to showdown becuz of how ive played it.

[dano]

On an aside: If we switched roles and were the button hypothetically holding AK. Does anyone take this line and bet the river? What about with KQ?

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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On an aside: If we switched roles and were the button hypothetically holding AK. Does anyone take this line and bet the river? What about with KQ?

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If I were the BTN, when I bet the river after the action thats transpired, I will have 88's beat exactly 100% of the time.

[SteveL91]

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On an aside: If we switched roles and were the button hypothetically holding AK. Does anyone take this line and bet the river? What about with KQ?

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Only if you're playing carbon copies of yourself (and you're capable of folding on the river), or you're against two players you know and read very, very well. Even then, I'd say the odds of success are pretty slim.

[danzasmack]

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On an aside: If we switched roles and were the button hypothetically holding AK. Does anyone take this line and bet the river? What about with KQ?

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bluff betting into 2 players in this game with Khi or Ahi on the river is awful

[TheHip41]

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On an aside: If we switched roles and were the button hypothetically holding AK. Does anyone take this line and bet the river? What about with KQ?

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If I were the BTN, when I bet the river after the action thats transpired, I will have 88's beat exactly 100% of the time.

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This is what I was going to write. A good player bets for value into TWO people on the river. You are never, ever good here if I bet. All you beat is 66, and chop with 88.

I'd c/r the flop. If the button 3bets, I'm going to assume I'm losing, and call the turn if I have odds, and c/f if I don't.

THe fact that you are c/r two ppl on the flop means the TAG isn't likely to 3bet you with AK. And he probalby won't 3bet the flop, bet the turn, AND bet the river iwth a worse hand than 88.

I think once you call PF, you have to c/r this flop, so you don't just blindly call down.

[justin]

Does anyone think villain is more liekly to bluff at 2 people with a hand like ak/aq as opposed to one person where he'd have more value in just c/c? Or am i thinking backwards?