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Old 03-28-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default 50NL deep, fold this river ?

Villain is 47/33/6.5 over 70 hands. I`m 15/10.2.8.

I kind of represented a draw upto my checkraise on the turn. Is this a fold ?

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<font color="#C00000">Hero ($169.20)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($72.35)</font>
UTG ($67.95)
Button ($26.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $4.50.

Turn: ($18) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $29</font>, BB calls $20.

River: ($76) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $34.35 (All-In)</font>, Hero ??
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep, fold this river ?

i would 3bet the flop, raise more on the turn, then you don't have to worry about the river. as played i'm shoving the river

Edit: i hate the turn c/r. why would you want to give free cards? once you check the turn, crai.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep, fold this river ?

Raise flop, bet more on turn, call river. Dude looks like a total aggtard, you really have to call.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep, fold this river ?

marvin, you mean 4-bet flop ? Villain 3bet the flop, I don`t like to 4bet here, especialy considering villains very aggressive postflop stats. I bet potsize on turn, maybe this is a leak and I should bet more when so deepstacked. I don`t want to drive him out of the pot tho. Would really like to hear some feedback about this, cause it has caused me trouble in the past
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep, fold this river ?

He means 3-bet. I thought 3-bet = reraise.

If that's the case the flop action went, bet, raise and if you had reraised that would have been a 3-bet.

I never fold that river against an opponent like that. You will see QQ - AA and 22 enough to show a profit getting 2-1 on the call. I think pushing the turn may be better though.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep, fold this river ?

If he thinks your calling the river he has the implied odds to call your $20 ch-r. I would have 4 bet the flop but as you played I'm raising the turn AI.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep, fold this river ?

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marvin, you mean 4-bet flop ? Villain 3bet the flop, I don`t like to 4bet here, especialy considering villains very aggressive postflop stats. I bet potsize on turn, maybe this is a leak and I should bet more when so deepstacked. I don`t want to drive him out of the pot tho. Would really like to hear some feedback about this, cause it has caused me trouble in the past

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ok, you flopped the second nuts, you need to be getting as much $ into the pot as possible. lead pot on the flop. he raised, so 3-bet. you didnt raise pot on the turn . . a psr is 45.

Edit: and why don't you like 3betting? cause he'll fold? 3bet and pray he shoves w/ a heart draw . . .
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep, fold this river ?

Bet FULL pot on the flop...Then if villain raises you can decide whether to 3 bet or C/R a non heart turn..On the turn a pot size raise would be to make it $45 to go...A PSR will alway give your villain 2 to 1 odds to call...

As played make the crying call on the river..
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep, fold this river ?

Push all in on the flop. He likes his hand he's bet you big, he prolly has 89hearts or something. Punish his combo draw, he aint folding nad you want all your cash in good. So push mofo, push!
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep, fold this river ?

Call. Villan's turn action is inconsistant with heart draw. Maybe a hand like A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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