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View Poll Results: How do you order your cards when playing a card game | |||
I order them highest to lowest going left to right (Aces on the left, deuces on the right) | 60 | 35.29% | |
I order them lowest to highest going left to right (Deuces on the left, aces on the right) | 91 | 53.53% | |
I keep them in a jumbled mess | 19 | 11.18% | |
Voters: 170. You may not vote on this poll |
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Re: Overpair vs. bluffer, 50NL
I think that the best line here is to check the turn behind and let him go to town on the blank river. A bet here feels very wrong to me, I just cant see how betting this turn is going to yield you any value. You certainly can't stand a raise, and betting here makes the pot too big for JJ.
As a side note, his range makes this very difficult to play given that he could have so many hands here, and given that he's so bluffy, you just cant ever be sure where you stand. I feel like checking this turn is pretty good damage control becuase it pours water on his fire, making it very difficult to extract from a set on the river without overbetting which we can easily fold. What would be really useful would be to know what his capabilities are on the turn ie. if he is capable of floating the turn again with nothing. But then again, even so, we just get raised/called by better and fold out worse. I think I like a check here. Really tough spot tho. |
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Re: Overpair vs. bluffer, 50NL
i also don't like checking b/c you are playing right into his strategy.
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#23
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Re: Overpair vs. bluffer, 50NL
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i also don't like checking b/c you are playing right into his strategy. [/ QUOTE ] This is wrong, by checking you are allowing him to hang himself whilst still allowing him to think that his "strategy" is working. Its not he who is being deceptive, its us. He thinks that he can take it away on the river by representing the straight but really he is just playing right into OUR hands. |
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Re: Overpair vs. bluffer, 50NL
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i also don't like checking b/c you are playing right into his strategy. [/ QUOTE ] Not realy because betting and getting c/r'd forces us to fold IMO |
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Re: Overpair vs. bluffer, 50NL
This is a super-standard check the turn behind against most opponents and call up to $X some %, fold for more than $X some % on the river proportional to level of aggression/air which is highly opponent dependent. I would be hesitant to put toooo much stock in these kinds of notes from previous sessions, as erratic opponents are just that.
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#26
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Re: Overpair vs. bluffer, 50NL
I think this is a very obvious check on the turn -- four to a straight, LAG now playing weak, vulnerable hand, pot control. Use your position.
I would probably call up to a 3/4 bet on the river, maybe a PSB. But betting the turn is really bad. |
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Re: Overpair vs. bluffer, 50NL
grunching....
your note is confusing, makes big bluffs "early", does this mean early in the hand? If so he probably has somethin decent on the flop. "Not afraid to make big bluffs". So did he over bet push on the flop, or bet/3bet with air or something? Or does this mean he continues with his bluffs on later streets? I think with his line stronger hands are definitely in his range, I'd look him up if he bet half->PSB depending on his timing and the river card.... baffled by the bet crowd, unless you want to get AI even on this board. |
#28
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Re: Overpair vs. bluffer, 50NL
betting here sucks donkey balls
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