line check "6-tuple or bust" (a.k.a down to t120 level 1)

[Spete]

Seems that I or the converter messed up the conversion, you can assume normal order of play on each round.

The question remains the same: should I look to double up here or am I correct to look for more with this hand and stack size?

[RexWoo]

You realize that, say, 70% of the time, someone will raise behind and you will end heads-up with no impetus and a bad hand.

I mean : here it seems that you say to me, look how good my play was BECAUSE the flop gives me OESFD vs 354681313 opponents.

Now let's say the flop is 29Q, one heart. How good does your limp look, now ?

[woohoo88]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the flop bet.

Egads.

[jus_nutz]

push pf

[Kevin8423]

PF has already been talked about, so I'll move onto the flop. While most people would probably advise to just shove here with the great draw I don't mind a minbet. People who have a J or Q will be calling your 90 anyway and your draw beats just about anything else that could call you that wouldn't otherwise so you might as well build the pot as best you can. For most circumstances you can assume you are winning the pot if you hit your draw and losing in other cases. If you lose after hitting then theres nothing you can do about it.

[Spete]

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the flop bet.

Egads.

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Please elaborate. I have already stated that I'm not interested in taking down a pot of t210, especially now that I have flopped this kind of monster draw and I have a real chance of n-tupling if I can just keep my customers in.

I might be wrong in my philosophy "n-tuple or bust", and maybe I should be interested in taking the pot down now. This is exactly what I'm trying to find out, and that's why I posted. I'm willing to change my mind, but I'm going to need more reasoning than "Egads".

[SlackerMcFly]

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I might be wrong in my philosophy "n-tuple or bust", and maybe I should be interested in taking the pot down now. This is exactly what I'm trying to find out, and that's why I posted.

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I'll go against the grain here and agree with your reasoning.

Lots of (much better players than I) have posted in this thread and I respect their advice a ton. Also, I agree with them the vast majority of the time.

However. In a vacuum like this, your play is fine by me and I would do the exact same thing if my goal was to stay alive for as long as possible.

Many of the best players out there will have limped a hand as a giant stack that they had no chance of winning simply to juice the pot and induce a smallie to shove and improve their chances of winning a tourney. Usually on or near the bubble.

This is the reverse play of that and I see nothing wrong with it.

The problem here is the mind-set that 4-5 handed poker is the only poker there is, and push/fold is the only answer to any given question.

Your play is fine here in this exact circumstance. It's why you are so short-stacked this early that would concern me in the long run.

/rant Slacka

[Spete]

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-- It's why you are so short-stacked this early that would concern me in the long run.


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Good point. Any mistake I made in the hand that crippled me was obviously much more costly than anything I do now. I had just filed that hand as a bad beat in my memory, but looking back I think I might have [censored] it up. I'll have to post it. This might end up being the most valuable advice I got out of this thread.

[Spete]

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You realize that, say, 70% of the time, someone will raise behind and you will end heads-up with no impetus and a bad hand.


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Yes. I don't mind, really, since I'm in the dead zone and a wraith already. I just want to get out of this SNG or get back among the living, and t240 isn't among the living yet IMO. I think you guys may be too fixed at cEV which may equal $EV here BUT in my opinion it doesn't maximize $/hr here.

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I mean : here it seems that you say to me, look how good my play was BECAUSE the flop gives me OESFD vs 354681313 opponents.


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Good point, I should have made this street by street. Ok many think that preflop was bad given I was UTG+1. How about if I had been on the button and there were 4 limpers?