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Old 03-26-2007, 12:45 AM
b33nz b33nz is offline
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Default pair + draw, but i hate all my options

no reads. i dont know what he will fold on the turn that he calls with on the flop. big part of his range is AJ, KJ, QJ, TJ, QT, and J9. most likely he is not folding any of these hands for a turn bet. but i also cant check-fold, can i? and check calling is kinda sketchy and might even be bad.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
4 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $284.80
BB: $980.40
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $870.30</font>
BTN: $540.50

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, BTN calls $14, SB folds, BB calls $10

<font color="black">Flop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 ($44, 3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $33</font>, BTN calls $33, BB folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 8 ($110, 2 Players)
Hero
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: pair + draw, but i hate all my options

I normally c/c in spots like this.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: pair + draw, but i hate all my options

i like c/c too. there's still some chance you're ahead so you don't mind letting him bet.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: pair + draw, but i hate all my options

Agree, mostly c/c turn, c/f river UI with some exceptions.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: pair + draw, but i hate all my options

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Agree, mostly c/c turn, c/f river UI with some exceptions.

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Old 03-26-2007, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: pair + draw, but i hate all my options

With no other information available to me, I would actually go for the Check-Raise as a defensive play in case your straight does not pan out.

A correct Pot-Odds bet of $24 (10 outs) would not only raise suspect, it looks weak, and in turn might give him the right odds to call.

If he Re-Raises you, A fold IMO would be the correct play.

On the River, you can check when you miss your draw and he is more then likely to check also, unless he has a strong hand, like QT, JJ, 99, 44. (T7, J4, 94 does not make much sense with the pre-flop call of your raise) If he has AJ, KJ, QJ he is more then likely too scared to face another check-raise, or be happy to just limp in and take the pot if he has the better hand.
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: pair + draw, but i hate all my options

check/call seems good as others have said and i'd probably c/f river unimproved
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: pair + draw, but i hate all my options

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With no other information available to me, I would actually go for the Check-Raise as a defensive play in case your straight does not pan out.

A correct Pot-Odds bet of $24 (10 outs) would not only raise suspect, it looks weak, and in turn might give him the right odds to call.

If he Re-Raises you, A fold IMO would be the correct play.

On the River, you can check when you miss your draw and he is more then likely to check also, unless he has a strong hand, like QT, JJ, 99, 44. (T7, J4, 94 does not make much sense with the pre-flop call of your raise) If he has AJ, KJ, QJ he is more then likely too scared to face another check-raise, or be happy to just limp in and take the pot if he has the better hand.

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lol, brilliant
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:00 PM
GLmaestro GLmaestro is offline
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Default Re: pair + draw, but i hate all my options

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With no other information available to me, I would actually go for the Check-Raise as a defensive play in case your straight does not pan out.

A correct Pot-Odds bet of $24 (10 outs) would not only raise suspect, it looks weak, and in turn might give him the right odds to call.

If he Re-Raises you, A fold IMO would be the correct play.

On the River, you can check when you miss your draw and he is more then likely to check also, unless he has a strong hand, like QT, JJ, 99, 44. (T7, J4, 94 does not make much sense with the pre-flop call of your raise) If he has AJ, KJ, QJ he is more then likely too scared to face another check-raise, or be happy to just limp in and take the pot if he has the better hand.

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Do u coach sir?
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:21 PM
Boquense Boquense is offline
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Default Re: pair + draw, but i hate all my options

Against some villains I actually love a c/r here, although not for reasons stated by Soju....c/c is standard against most.
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