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Old 03-24-2007, 04:06 AM
hernandez hernandez is offline
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Default $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

I am confused how to play these kind of situations.

If I decide that I want to continue with the hand, I should
push, but then I have actually given villain correct
implied odds on the flop to chase his flush.

If I fold to the raise, I am sometimes folding the best hand. In the low-buyins other hands than flush also very possible?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP (t2900)
CO (t3410)
Button (t1370)
Hero (t1295)
BB (t3915)
UTG (t2110)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls t40, CO calls t40, Button calls t40, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, BB folds, MP calls t150, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: (t500) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t225</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t450</font>, Hero.. ?
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:22 AM
Ampelmann Ampelmann is offline
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Default Re: $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

Fold preflop.

On the flop I'd just pot it with 4 others and a possible flush draw.

Turn is tough, but at this level this can easily be 2 pair or a set. How has MP been playing so far? He has a healthy stack, so he must have done something. How did he double up? Did he see many flops, did he often bet or raise?

W/o reads at this level I'd prolly puke and shove, make a note on the player, and open a new one.
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

I fold preflop. As played, I like the flop bet. I would push the turn. The guys at low buy ins raise here with flush draw /pair combo , two pair and sets.
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:27 AM
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Default Re: $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

Fold preflop why?

I might bet the pot on the flop, since you're up against four opponents. But this flop bet isn't bad; you're not giving away odds, and you really want action on this. I would either push or check/fold the turn, depending on my read on this player. I don't like the mini-bet.

As played, I think there's a very good chance he's got a flush here. All chips will be going in here if any do, so you've got to put in 900 to win about 3000, or 3:1. If you think there's a &gt; 33% chance he's got something other than a flush, then push. I think it's more like 10% (assuming a solid opponent), so I fold, and put my 900 in at a better spot. Blinds are still relatively low...
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

MP has not done anything special so far. He has not been overly aggressive so I assume he has something when he raises. He doubled up when he had TPGK (AJ) with his opponent having top pair+flush draw.

Does anyone like overbetting the flop? Make it 500 and then we can push the turn even if a club hits. If I bet 150 on the flop and then push the turn, the flush chaser is making a +EV call on the flop.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

He's +EV only if you're guaranteed to push the turn. If you can fold here when he hits his 4:1 draw, then he's definitely -EV here. I like it as played. Plus you want action from losing hands, and you can't know he's on a flush draw when you bet out...
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Old 03-25-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

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Old 03-25-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

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There's no need to get frisky out of position with a marginal hand. in a $1.10, you will have plenty of other opportunities to take +EV situations.
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

Pot odds are 8:1... that's not frisky, it's just sensible, no?
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: $1.1 Straight, 3 clubs on board

Haha, the preflop call is fine. He's in the small blind and is getting 293874902:1 on the call... as long as he isn't going nuts with 1 pair on the flop, it's fine.

I'd pot the flop. The turn sucks sooo much, I def. think a flush draw is a big part of his range. However, I also think that enough random holdings are in his range in a $1 so that stacking off is probably fine. But since I'm willing to get in on the turn, I'm betting more than 1/2 pot.
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