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Old 03-24-2007, 02:23 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the turn

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: Rothmans77 ( $ 55.17 USD )
Seat 4: ivargjelsvik ( $ 7.89 USD )
Seat 6: stefan7900 ( $ 21.15 USD )
Seat 1: Hero ( $ 27.05 USD )
Seat 5: Fluke_man ( $ 31.44 USD )
Seat 2: ola3000 ( $ 24.45 USD )

stefan7900 posts small blind [$ 0.10 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$ 0.25 USD].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
ola3000 folds
Rothmans77 folds
ivargjelsvik raises [$ 0.50 USD]
Fluke_man folds
stefan7900 calls [$ 0.40 USD]
Hero raises [$ 1.75 USD]
ivargjelsvik calls [$ 1.50 USD]
stefan7900 folds

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Hero checks
ivargjelsvik checks

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Hero fires a barrel? Is so, why?
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:28 PM
noob_sauce noob_sauce is offline
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Default Re: $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the

hero fires a barrel on flop, because it is standard...

as played, hero fires barrel on turn because delayed cbets can be effective/he wants to make up for his flop mistake.
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the turn

You have no reason to protect anything and you have awesome showdow value. You might get a call from 99-QQ, but save it for the river IMO. C/C turn if he bets, if he checks I value bet the river.
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the

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hero fires a barrel on flop, because it is standard...

as played, hero fires barrel on turn because delayed cbets can be effective/he wants to make up for his flop mistake.

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lol at betting this flop
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the

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hero fires a barrel on flop, because it is standard...

as played, hero fires barrel on turn because delayed cbets can be effective/he wants to make up for his flop mistake.

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wow this forum seems noisy...
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:38 PM
noob_sauce noob_sauce is offline
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Default Re: $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the

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hero fires a barrel on flop, because it is standard...

as played, hero fires barrel on turn because delayed cbets can be effective/he wants to make up for his flop mistake.

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lol at betting this flop

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lol, yeah I suck... (edit: no I don't, I stick with my cbet line until I receive a convincing argument otherwise... check=weak sauce)

HU i follow my pf aggression up with cbets 99% of the time... I don't see anything wrong with a cbet here. granted we are wa/wb here, but I personally don't mind taking it down here with a mid sized bet/tossing in the towel if we get action on the bet and don't get a club...

please let me know if/how my thinking is off here.
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the

you allow villain to play optimally...that is what is wrong
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the

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hero fires a barrel on flop, because it is standard...

as played, hero fires barrel on turn because delayed cbets can be effective/he wants to make up for his flop mistake.

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wow this forum seems noisy...

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wtf was that supposed to imply?
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the

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you allow villain to play optimally...that is what is wrong

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Elaborate, please.
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: $25- KK cryptonite with Axx flop BUT with a nut flush draw on the

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you allow villain to play optimally...that is what is wrong

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Elaborate, please.

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Villain most likely folds unless he has Ax, in which case we're drawing to nothing besides our set or a runner runner nut flush. Betting allows him to fold hands we're ahead of and call when we're dominated. Basically c-betting=bluff here. Let villain do the bluffing.
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