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Old 03-23-2007, 10:35 PM
bicilotti bicilotti is offline
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Default bottom two - many draws on flop

No particular reads on the other players.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($246.45)
BB ($273.50)
UTG ($192.25)
MP1 ($192)
Hero ($264.90)
CO ($305.90)
Button ($59)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $6.

Flop: ($19) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($79) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $64</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $226.9</font>, UTG calls $90.25 (All-In).

River: ($460.15) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $460.15

PF raise was meant to add a little deception to my game.
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:46 PM
sixhigh sixhigh is offline
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Default Re: bottom two - many draws on flop

Welcome to the forums.

I'd raise a little bit more preflop ($10 seems appropriate), but raising at all is fine.
Bet way way more on that flop. As played i don't mind a 3bet there. Turn is standard imo.
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:48 AM
bicilotti bicilotti is offline
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Default Re: bottom two - many draws on flop

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Welcome to the forums.


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Thank you! I was a long time lurker!

Back to the hand, the question is:

are my bets going to be called only by a better hand? in other words, am I going to get action only when i'm far behind, like against JT?
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:35 AM
Scaramouche Scaramouche is offline
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Default Re: bottom two - many draws on flop

Why is the turn raise standard?
I call here and reevaluate on the river.
With bottom 2 on this board I want a cheep showdown.
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:38 AM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: bottom two - many draws on flop

You're never getting a cheap showdown against a hand that beats you. I play it the same
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:39 AM
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Default Re: bottom two - many draws on flop

niceaments.
welcome to forum.
i play it teh same.
gh sir.
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:01 AM
bicilotti bicilotti is offline
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Default Re: bottom two - many draws on flop

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gh sir.

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Not really, I lost to nines full. Second guessing myself I feel the turn all-in is useless: AA or KK won't call, only a set or a straight will pay to see the river. Toughts?
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:01 AM
Scaramouche Scaramouche is offline
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Default Re: bottom two - many draws on flop

I don't understand. What worse hand will call?
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:05 AM
pdoran10 pdoran10 is offline
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Default Re: bottom two - many draws on flop

dont be results oriented.
This means dont let the outcome of the hand affect whether or not you think you played the hand well/will turn profit in the longrun by playing it this way.
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: bottom two - many draws on flop

I treat bottom 2 pair the about the same as TPTK. I can find a fold on the turn. Am I a total nit now?
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